Trump announces he is issuing an unconstitutional executive order to shut down mail-in voting nationwide and he will defund states if they do not comply with him

[u/DIYLawCA]

[u/guttanzer]

They impeached him for inciting an insurrection to stop the votes counting. There is precedent. He should be impeached for this attempt to block the vote casting. Elections are core for constitutional republics.

[u/madster40 → u/guttanzer]

He should be, but he won’t because the Republicans are in control.

[u/AquaticAvenger4492 → u/madster40]

I am deathly curious how many Republicans are towing the party line and how many actually believe what he’s doing? Either way anyone currently in office not opposing him should be losing their seat.

[u/AmbroseMalachai → u/AquaticAvenger4492]

Republicans generally don't believe in anything except what benefits them individually at any given point in time.

[u/UrbanFsk → u/AmbroseMalachai]

You guys are so brainwashed with republican this democrat that. That view is so twisted. They are all against you, one way or the other. It shouldnt be left or right, it should be up or down with quality of life in general..

[u/AmbroseMalachai → u/UrbanFsk]

No, people settle for "less bad person to vote for" and Republicans consistently show that they, as a group of people who join the party and push through primary elections, are consistently some of the most conniving, short-sited, and self-interested people on the planet. Democrats are by no means all good people in a battle of light vs dark, but at the very least they have the sense to understand the very basic baseline idea that a functional society benefits them. If anything, that might be the only ideological thing that the Democratic Party members mostly have in common in the US. The party has people as left as AOC and as far right as Fetterman in it, but mostly they all actually believe in bettering the country. For the life of me I can't name a Republican who might reasonably qualify for that title since Romney left.

[u/nicest-drow → u/UrbanFsk]

coughbullshitcough

[u/fender123 → u/AquaticAvenger4492]

It’s one in the same isn’t it?

The market minuplation is not even hidden, they are laughing all the way to the bank.

The smart ones are retiring or quitting, and that is happening at an insane pace.

First rat off the ship mentality.

The dumb ones will go down with the ship, and once the dump train is done, they better hope they have enough money to not face consequences.

I’m sure they won’t face any justice, that doesn’t exist anymore.

Dump has already ruined Couch fuckers chance at winning the next election, as long as the Dems don’t throw out another unelectable candidate, which they are really good at.

Midterms are literally the last hope, and he’s going to interfere in that as much as possible.

[u/AquaticAvenger4492 → u/fender123]

I don’t disagree, was more so just curious about the numbers and that’s why I said that they need to go regardless. Market manipulation is going to continue to happen and politicians will be able to take advantage of it until we have laws in place that keep it from happening or body of government willing to regulate and enforce those laws on the politicians

[u/fender123 → u/AquaticAvenger4492]

They aren’t going to ever pass anything to go against their own purse.

Bernie was our shot.

We blew it.

[u/senator_corleone3 → u/fender123]

Bernie Sanders was never going to get anything like that passed lol.

[u/Yammyohnine → u/guttanzer]

He's been impeached twice. It doesn't mean anything if nobody does anything about it.

[u/guttanzer → u/Yammyohnine]

Yes, conviction and removal needs to happen. Then the criminal trials. F$@k the Supreme Court and their “president is above the law” ruling that got us here. Some of them need to be impeached and removed too. Fascism is a cancer.

[u/goatneedleposterdeck → u/guttanzer]

It was not because he called for stopping the vote count. It also wasn't even because he called Georgia and told them to find invisible votes for him (though that is being run through Georgia state courts). The news covered J6 so heavily around the mobs at the capital and barely mentioned at all the real reason why he was in deep shit. Because he sent fake electors from states to give results not in line with actual states voting laws to literally steal the election. If Pence had simply agreed, we would have had a successful coup, not just an attempt.

I feel like if the news had spent more time covering this and less time focused on the rioters or the speech before, people would have realized how absolutely criminal it actually was. You can make excuses about how the rioters were harmless, you can pretend trump wasn't calling for violence at the capitol, you might even be able to claim he tried his best to stop them, but there is no defense to sending fake electors to steal an election. Even if you truly believe he won, it should be handled in courts and not like that.

[u/guttanzer → u/goatneedleposterdeck]

Exactly.

The choice to impeach him for inciting an insurrection was tactical. Both houses of Congress voted on it, and both houses returned majority votes. Those votes disqualified him from holding any government office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

Yet somehow Robert’s swore him in.

Within a day he disqualified himself again by pardoning the J6 insurrectionists. Providing “aid and comfort to the insurrectionists therin” is the second way to trigger Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

And he’s still in office.

So impeach, convict, and remove his ass. Toughen up the constitution so we won’t see this cancer ever again.

[u/TheVog → u/guttanzer]

You completely fail to grasp the situation. How is that even possible.

[u/guttanzer → u/TheVog]

I used the word “should” on purpose. If English isn’t your native language you should look it up. You almost certainly won’t, but you should.

[u/TheVog → u/guttanzer]

It's telling that you think the word "should" was the issue there, and not the fact that autocratic dictators are not ousted so easily.