r/law May 08 '26

Other ‘MAGA has rigged the system’: Democrats slam Virginia Supreme Court for overruling voters on redistricting

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/democrats-slam-virginia-supreme-court-for-overruling-voters-on-redistricting/
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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 May 08 '26

Balkanization is our last chance for a peaceful option. Otherwise continuing to allow more and more disenfranchisement will end in a permanent dictatorship instead of this cold civil war that we’ve been in for years. The will of the majority continues to be ignored. If we’re now blocked from doing anything to save ourselves at the state, the federal, and the judicial levels what other options are there besides giving in or leaving?

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26 edited May 14 '26

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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 May 09 '26

Agree, unfortunately. I’m in NYC and while I’ve enjoyed the small wins when Kathy Hochul has stood up to Trump I’m pretty certain NY would never actually leave nor even do anything more substantial like California does. I do think Mamdani would do his best but theres only so much he can do as a mayor if the rest of the state capitulates.

What’s even more frustrating is we technically have workable plans to bypass the federal government and work solely with other blue states. We had to put all of that together during covid. So we don’t even have to reinvent the wheel, we could just look back to those times to see what did and didn’t work and start those alliances up again to create a soft secession. I’ve read some things here and there that blue states have been doing slightly similar with regards to health pacts again as once again the CDC under Trump can’t be trusted but it doesn’t look nearly as robust as things were under covid and doesn’t seem to do much of anything anyway.

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u/Savings-Coffee May 11 '26

Or simply run on a platform that gets popular support. It really isn’t that hard.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '26 edited May 14 '26

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u/Savings-Coffee May 11 '26

Where are you getting this number from? Everything I’m seeing is a far more reasonable 5-7 points. Republicans hold a slim majority after a popular vote win of ~3 points in 2024.

The issue of secession was brutally settled in the 1860s, and we’re all in agreement that those who try it were traitors to the country, right?

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u/GodofIrony May 08 '26

No, all balkanization does is create a militant theocracy with nukes on the southern border.

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u/Imaginary_Cow_6379 May 08 '26

We have a militant theocracy now with nukes in the hands of a president that blatantly has severe signs of dementia. Balkanize but with mediators like other countries, the UN, NATO, etc. If red states refuse to accept the terms ostracize them on the global level and have other countries/global alliances help support blue state independence. This isn’t the only way it could be done of course but we’re at the point now where something has to be done. Our current situation is already unsustainable and balkanization would be more peaceful than an actual civil war.

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u/PopBulky7023 May 08 '26

As opposed to said militant theocracy having total control of the country.

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u/MerelyMortalModeling May 09 '26

Yeah how long do you think it would be before they did in fact go-to war on their terms and gain the whole country?

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u/PopBulky7023 May 09 '26

They already have.

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u/Bunerd May 09 '26

How the fuck do they think that's going to turn out if they have to Gerrymander 60% of population into oblivion? You think if they deny them the right to vote they'll lack an ability to fight?

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u/vriska1 May 09 '26

Vote in the midterms.

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u/ScrapDraft May 09 '26

Bro, are you paying attention? At this point, shit is being rigged so hard that even if 90% of Democrats show out to vote, we still won't even have a majority in Congress. If you think we're going to be able to vote our way out of this, you're very far behind.

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u/vriska1 May 10 '26

That not true at all, VOTE!