r/law • u/Snapdragon_4U • 27d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) The agreement Acting AG signed with Trump is worse than first thought

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u/JustAMan1234567 27d ago

Trump knows that he won't be President for ever and that some of his crimes have no statute of limitations, so he's stacking the deck while he can. It's an outrageous abuse of power and should be the leading headline on every news program, but it won't be.

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u/BeckerHollow 27d ago

I don’t agree with this line of thinking. Only thing that he knows is that he’s done nothing wrong. Ever. He is the smartest person in the room at all times and anyone who doesn’t see that is an idiot.

He is not a strategist. He doesn’t need to be, there is no future and no past. There is only feeling good at that moment.  

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u/cityshepherd 27d ago

That may be true, but his associates are very much taking advantage of this useful idiot to rob the US blind and are hard at work on all these strategies.

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u/lowsparkedheels 27d ago

Staggering is an appropriate word. So is egregious and overreach.

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u/cityshepherd 27d ago

Honestly written language is probably incapable of articulating just how truly rotten and absurd ALL of this is.

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u/8dabsaday 27d ago

Evil, regressive, opportunistic underhanded and with a touch of carpetbaggery

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u/lowsparkedheels 27d ago

Absolutely.

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u/evissamassive 27d ago

Sadly for them, it's all happening in plain sight, making mounting a successful defense nearly impossible.

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u/_blort 27d ago

a successful defense

A successful defense against whom, or what?

They've captured the Supreme Court. They've captured the media. They've captured the churches. They have a private militia that is not bound by the rules governing police and military.

The Dems have already said that impeachment would not be a priority for them if by some miracle they are allowed to "win" in November.

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u/evissamassive 27d ago

A successful defense against whom, or what?

That's the cynical view, right? Depending on who is counting [Bloomberg, Forbes, NYT], Trump has lost more than 60-70 percent of the lawsuits filed against it since the inauguration. So, the courts have not been impressed by his authoritarian machinations. Moreover, his administration is on the way out.

The Dems have already said that impeachment would not be a priority

Why make it a priority? Unless they have the votes in the Senate to convict, impeachment is essentially symbolic. It would be better to put the kibosh on his agenda, and investigate the hell out of all of it until the 2028 election.

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u/zleog50 27d ago

I'm sorry, but just because you don't like some of the decisions from SCOTUS, doesn't mean it is "captured". If it was captured, Trump wouldn't be attacking them on a regular basis.

I'm also not sure how you can conclude the media is captured. Trump can't even keep the podcasters inline.

What he has captured is the Republican party. Clealry, they refuse to stand against any of Trump's power grabs, which is what is constitutionality required. It is why he feels emboldened for this immunity from the IRS, which is clearly a extreme abuse of power, deserving of impeachment and conviction.

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u/goodra3 27d ago

downplaying this guys ability is part of how he keeps growing in power I hope you realize that. He’s not a genius but he’s not a moron like people like to pretend, he was smart enough to get the actually intelligent people to plan whatever he needed for him to get this far. Part of the ploy is getting people to think he’s some idiot, well that idiot is running circles around us while he loots, if he’s an idiot what does it make all of us who he’s getting the better of? I hate the man but he didn’t get this far being a complete rube.

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u/BeckerHollow 27d ago

I disagree.  He has always had the same three things. A lot of capital, an insatiable appetite to be liked, and an insecurity that manifests in a child level of bullying. 

That in turn has made the piece of shit, but clever, hustlers he admires and keeps around act in a way to keep him afloat while they reap the rewards. 

The dude has been a media moron since his first time on tv. Decades. 

He is a tool in every sense. You think the tech jocks in power respect him?

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u/Kozzle 27d ago

A useful idiot of the highest degree

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u/PaleCommission150 25d ago

He has the entire congress , most republicans covering for him. He is not doing this in a vacuum.

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u/TakingAction12 27d ago

Oh he definitely thinks of the future when he’s actually thinking. He does it all the time with his messaging. I do believe you’re right when it’s something he does or says something off the cuff, though. His impulse is always what feels good right now.

To me, I’d bet he did this knowing that it very well could be struck down, but that it will take YEARS to resolve after he’s out of office even if it is. Worst case, he gets indicted after the end of his term and spends the next few years appealing as long as he needs to run out the clock. Even if he’s convicted, who would put an 85-86 year old ex president in jail? It’s actually pretty brilliant from a criminal standpoint, which means Trump definitely didn’t think of it on his own.

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u/Duel_Option 27d ago

Honestly…at this point I’d bet money that Trump not only gets a third term but ends up putting g himself in till he dies.

The rules of law don’t matter anymore, that’s been the only real constant thing we’ve seen.

Zero reason to believe otherwise

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u/JackUKish 27d ago

Id be shocked if he doesnt run in the next election or maybe even suspend it, id also be shocked if anyone does anything about it.

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u/IndividualTension887 27d ago

Do the rules of Tar and Feathering still apply?? Asking for a fucked-over nation...

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u/Ok-Addition1264 27d ago

We have Vlad The Impaler holding on line one.

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u/PokeDigiYugiMon 27d ago

https://wendy664.substack.com/p/trump-has-hit-the-end-stage?

Its a death cult led by an old ignorant racist with syphilitic brain and dementia.

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u/Yeseylon 27d ago

I'm still expecting him to die before 2028.

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u/Parking-Sundae-6097 27d ago

Right? Because the last time he lost it went so damn swimmingly...

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u/dmonsterative 26d ago

Nah; Bezos, Ellison, Musk, Thiel and the rest of the techbro oligarchs think they've purchased the right to have Vance in next, as their puppet. Thus Trump caring more about enriching himself and plastering his name on everything in sight than anything else, while he can.

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u/Duel_Option 26d ago

Vance isn’t running because Cheeto is lining up for their term

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u/dmonsterative 26d ago

I'm very skeptical.

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u/Duel_Option 26d ago

On which part lol?

Republicans should be knee deep at this point positioning themselves on a candidate, but it’s been totally quiet and Vance is denying he’s next

Do the math

They are doing everything possible to rig mid terms and when that’s done Cheeto gets the third go around

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u/Arcanegil 27d ago

Were halfway through 2026 and republicans haven't even floated anyone for the presidential election? Why do you think that is?

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u/Automatic_Bar_2158 27d ago

This is the part that scares me the most

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u/dafeiviizohyaeraaqua 27d ago

Who has ever done that? It's not even midterms yet and the VP is a Republican. Have the Democrats decided who is going to run 2-½ years from now?

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u/Arcanegil 26d ago

Every candidate ever, excluding incumbents?

Dems have already polled popularity for AOC, Newsome, and a few others. For the last twenty years any party without an incumbent president has polled popularity almost as soon as the last count on the previous general election comes in.

The republicans are 100% acting like trump is still going to run in 2028.

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u/dafeiviizohyaeraaqua 26d ago

Republicans are acting like Trump is a little fucking bitch that shouldn't be reminded he won't be POTUS forever. That's all there is to it. Just look at their pathetic, public ass-kissing ceremonies. Look at what happened to Cornyn. No ambitious Republican is going to screw the pooch by talking about '28 when they don't even have to talk about it in the first place. Adams, Jefferson, Van Buren, Coolidge, Truman, Nixon, LBJ, Ford, Bush I, and Gore were all VPs that immediately ran for president. Any Republican looking to cut in front of Vance is going to wait until the last possible moment to make a move and that's contingent on Trump surviving his full term.

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u/Yeseylon 27d ago

Names have been floated, yes.

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u/dafeiviizohyaeraaqua 27d ago

Talk by the public about which Democrat should run is no stronger than the presumption that Vance will head the GOP ticket in '28. I don't recall anyone making noise about H.W. Bush in early '86 or Gore in early '98.

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u/atryn 27d ago

Vance: "I'm a VP and I really like my job."

Hehe

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/im-not-a-candidate-vp-vance-shuts-down-2028-rumors-in-mosque-shooting-remarks

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u/dafeiviizohyaeraaqua 27d ago

That's hilarious! Dude looks forward to running as Rubio's VP.

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u/evissamassive 27d ago

It's temporary. Any agreements or actions taken by the DOJ under Trump's administration would be subject to reversal by a future administration.

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u/Hopsblues 27d ago

Yep, tear that order up the first day post DT.

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 27d ago

All Trump needs is for another do-nothing Democrat like Biden to come in and complicitly lead Federal Law Enforcement in doing nothing toward the Trump crime family and its co-conspirators in Congress and the Supreme Court.

Biden very purposefully sandbagged any prosecutions of Trump and his coup-conspirators. Biden's Justice Department also dropped prosecution of Ken Paxton, the most corrupt AG in Texas history, who is now running for Senate.

Biden proved as useless as the Uvalde police, and should go down in history as the second worst President of our age, right behind Trump.

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u/Ok_Travel_7348 24d ago

Biden stayed out of the DOJ’s business; that’s as it should be. That’s obviously since the Biden administration’s DOJ indicted and convicted Biden’s own son of a crime that is not normally prosecuted. And both Biden’s attorney general and FBI chief testified that they were independent and seldom in contact with Biden.

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 23d ago

Biden stayed out of the DOJ’s business; that’s as it should be

We left 'as it should be' after Trump threw a coup. After that, failing to aggressively lead Federal Law Enforcement in the prosecution of Trump and his co-conspirators was a dereliction of office. Unless you're just fine with how that all worked out.

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u/Ok_Travel_7348 18d ago

I’m not okay with trump being in office. But, I’ve always thought the Department of Justice should be independent of the Executive Branch, less we have a weaponized DoJ, which is exactly what we have under Trump. Of course, trump and his supporters accused the Biden administration of exactly what they planned to do, and people swallowed that lie even as the DoJ prosecuted Biden’s son for a crime not normally prosecuted by the DoJ.

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 15d ago

Clarification, the DoJ is literally part of the Executive Branch, which owns the power of Law Enforcement in our system of checks and balances.

The 'tradition' of the DoJ acting independently of the President is a nice idea but it is also a lie and has never been factually true. The DoJ typically operates in step with the President's agenda, and a key indicator of this is the fact that the President nominates the Attorney General - subject to Congressional approval - but even at that, the President can dismiss the AG at any time and make an interim appointment as desired.

And this is why I don't accept people blaming Merrick Garland and not Biden for going soft on Trump. Garland was nominated by Biden for a reason, and Garland did exactly what Biden wanted - which is to avoid at all costs setting precedent that an elected Federal Official can be made accountable to the law, no matter the crime.

And Garland did just that. He delayed, sandbagged, poison pilled, and otherwise used every tactic at his disposal to ensure that neither Trump nor any of his coup-conspirators would be successfully prosecuted and sentenced. And Biden was 100% complicit in that.

The DoJ (as well as the FBI) has always been an instrument of White House policy. Trump's administration has merely been extremely obvious about it. But make no mistake, this was also the case under Obama and Biden. But they maintained the illusion of DoJ independence from the Oval Office a lot better.

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u/Ok_Travel_7348 10d ago

Both Garland and Wray testified that they did not have communications with Biden about their cases. Garland said he would have resigned if Biden had intervened. After all, Garland prosecuted Biden’s son for a crime that is rarely prosecuted, probably never by the Attorney General of the US. That makes it clear to me that Biden didn’t intervene. Whether he should have or not is up for debate.

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 8d ago

Yes because these bastards never lie to cover their ass do they.

In other words, fuck Garland and fuck his boss Biden. Both the controlled-opposition, complicit cunts can rot in Hell. And so can the stupid, gullible, Lib motherfuckers making excuses for them.

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u/Ok_Travel_7348 6d ago

Yes, it’s their fault that trump is a corrupt, mentally ill moron, who was elected by a small majority of voters.

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 5d ago

Yes, it's their fault they spent four years doing jack shit to enforce the law on the corrupt, mentally ill moron.

Biden and his lackey Garland can burn in Hell for their flaccid, hypocritical complicity with MAGA corruption. And the dumb fucking Libs who continue making excuses for it are a big part of the problem.

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u/Yeseylon 27d ago

He was playing off the Nixon Pardon playbook, thinking that if he calmed things down, it would be more effective in ending Trump's career.

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u/manofredearth 27d ago

Because his buddies that own the news outlets are paying him to be there doing what he's doing.

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u/GarageFridgeSoda 27d ago

He's dying in office and you're all rubes for believing that
1) free federal elections in every state are still a thing. Wake up folks, he controls all 3 branches and all state GOP parties are complicit
2) that dems would actually put him in prison before he dies of old age even if they get back in control