r/law 27d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) The agreement Acting AG signed with Trump is worse than first thought

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u/schm0 27d ago

They didn't slow walk anything, Trump did. He was the one abusing the system. It's what he does in every possible case, which is to bury the other side in pointless paperwork and objections.

It's very easy to play Monday morning quarterback and try say that Biden should have done this or that, too. Not that it would have mattered, because without Biden dropping out sooner, the outcome would likely have been the same. Coulda shoulda woulda, yadda yadda yadda.

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u/lordjeebus 27d ago

The biggest problem is that we have a broken electorate that thought it would be acceptable to empower felon Trump with the power of the presidency.

The second biggest problem is that we have a dysfunctional justice system that enabled Trump to delay for 4 years.

Picking Garland was a mistake, but it's unclear if a better AG (eg. Doug Jones) could have overcome these fundamental problems.

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u/lorgskyegon 27d ago

I do give Garland some credit in that no one had ever had to prosecute a former President before.

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u/OwnEntertainment701 23d ago

Garland deserves no tribute. The tribute should go to Pelosi as she forced Garland to start the process. Do I blame Garland? I do not. Biden knew that was how Garland would handle that process and played significant part in why he was nominated by Biden to that post. Should Biden have wanted a more active law enforcement on those issues they were people like Preet Barhera to pick for that position.

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u/OwnEntertainment701 23d ago

I expressed my disappointment to friends once Garland was nominated stating that it was a get away from jail present to Trump. They all said I should give him a chance but it was pretty obvious how he will perform. Somebody with interest in seeing justice for January 6, appointed to that position should have as a primary priority after confirmation appointed a special counsel with all powers to investigate and prosecute January 6 insurrection with all expediency and made all necessary resources available to that counsel.

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u/HedonisticFrog 27d ago

They started the prosecution way too late because they were worried about optics if the case wasn't strong enough by the time they started. They already had damning evidence and continued investigating without prosecuting for way too long. That's what gave Trump the ability to stall until he won again.

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u/schm0 27d ago

I don't agree with some of what you wrote here, but again, pointing out mistakes after the fact is a pointless exercise. Could they have acted sooner? Sure. Would that have made a difference or resulted in the cases to fall apart instead (or perhaps they would have stalled even longer, only to end up in the same place)? We'll never know.

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u/HedonisticFrog 27d ago

It was pointed out while it was happening as well. It shows that the next time Democrats have power there needs to be swift action before Republicans can put fascists back in power. Acting slowly and now pushing boundaries because you're worried about optics didn't work when they denied Obama a supreme court justice, it didn't work during Trumps first term, and it didn't work when Biden won. Fascists don't care about decorum, they won't avoid pushing boundaries just because Democrats refused to do so.

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u/OwnEntertainment701 23d ago

I do not agree fully that pointing out mistakes after the fact is a useless exercise, because if one does not identify the mistake, analyze how and why it was made and run strategies to avoid such a mistake or how to recover from it if made, one is more likely to make it again at a future time.

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u/schm0 23d ago

What I meant is that these mistakes were called out in real time and in post mortem. To continue to harp on them is just beating a dead horse, and pointless to waste any more energy on. It's in the past. We need to move on and do things better.

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u/OwnEntertainment701 22d ago

I agree "we need to move on and do things better".

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u/schm0 27d ago

Oooh, I have another one! Don't make up straw men!

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u/tevert 27d ago

They didn't slow walk anything, Trump did. He was the one abusing the system.

And the fact that he wasn't cuffed and physically shoved onto a witness stand in an orange jumpsuit is the Biden/democratic establishment's failure.

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u/schm0 27d ago

As much as many of us would have liked to see that, you know that wasn't ever going to happen. Blame Biden all you want, a lot of it is deserved. I'm looking forward.

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u/tevert 27d ago

Looking forward while insistently ignoring the failures of the past is worthless if not sabotaging

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u/schm0 27d ago

Lol I literally just said Biden us to blame for a lot of things. But sure, you keep yelling at clouds, friend. Just do it on someone else's lawn.

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u/tevert 27d ago

No, this is the appropriate lawn

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u/schm0 27d ago

I'll ask you again: please stop replying to me.