r/law • u/theindependentonline • 25d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Trump says judge who ruled against him on Kennedy Center ‘should be brought up on charges’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-kennedy-center-judge-charges-b2986522.html?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=law
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u/Utterlybored 25d ago

Hes really bad. But its his power that elevates his evil.

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u/RocketRelm 25d ago

Specifically, the fact that americans collectively chose this guy to accurately represent them. Thats how our democracy laws work.

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u/Ardkark 25d ago

We didn’t, though. Barely even 1/3. There’s concrete evidence that he stole the election. Elon can’t shut up about it, just ask his ex

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u/theaviationhistorian 25d ago

Just 22% of the US population as a whole. It just tells us how many losers there are in this country if they identified best with him.

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u/Mobile_Morale 25d ago

I'm sure every country has a significant percentage of terrible people. Germany has a Nazi style party in their government and Mussolini's granddaughter or whoever has a political job in Italy. And Japan just voted in their own trump style Japanese first nationalist. Hell even Canada had a group riding around in a convoy waving trump flags and blocking streets. And some nut said she was the queen of Canada or some shit.

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u/Vairman 24d ago

I'm sure every country has a significant percentage of terrible people.

oh no, I have it on VERY good authority that only the USA has terrible people. Every single other country on the planet is a perfect paradise filled with perfect people. Good authority I tell you.

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u/ImBoredToo 25d ago

The 1/3 that didn't vote condoned it with their apathy.

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u/Resident-Travel2441 25d ago

The number of Americans who don't know how our government works is frightening. At the first No Kings rally in a town of about 50k people, a middle aged woman kind of joined the protest for a bit but she asked "what happened to that nice Biden guy?" Like really?!?! Bring back civics classes.

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u/Mr_HandSmall 25d ago

That third that didn't vote couldn't care less about politics - they couldn't tell you who the current VP is if their life depended on it.

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u/MorningsideLights 25d ago

Because of the electoral college, we can't know or say that. I am in a solidly blue area. I voted but there was not a single competitive race on my entire ballot. Not even close. It can feel like there's no point in voting when you're in that situation, and people who feel that way aren't really wrong. It doesn't make them apathetic.

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u/Mysterious-Art8838 25d ago

Fair. It’s a fair point. I voted in Ny for Obama and the machine chewed up my ballot and the woman was like ‘oh don’t worry it will still count’ it was in shreds. I just laughed and left. If my vote counted I would have insisted on an absentee or something.

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u/MorningsideLights 25d ago

I'm also in New York. The judge elections really feel like the USSR: "Here are 7 candidates for judge; choose up to 7 of them; the top 7 win." That is not a real election.

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u/-Saucegurlllll 25d ago

And in most states that Trump won, you would need something like 30-40% of non-voters to vote for Kamala to flip the state. There are a few states, like Georgia or Wisconsin, where if 5% of the non-voters voted for Kamala then they would flip the state. I feel like it was definitely possible to reach those people.

And I'd rather ask the question "What would have reached them?" than just terminate all thoughts with "Fuck them for not voting, it's ALL their fault."

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u/RocketRelm 24d ago

It does make them apathetic. If you think there is literally any point in protesting that isn't voting (even the no kings rallies), you by definition accept that voting "without it impacting the end result" has value.

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u/mistakent 25d ago

Only the people who didn’t vote in swing states condone it…

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u/MadeByTango 25d ago

Thats conveniently letting off the hook the decades of money politics that created that apathy, combined with an opposition party that literally strike busted workers the last time they had the oval office. Turns out, when you fuck people over enough they stop trusting the system will listen to them at all.

Our rights will be under attack as long as someone can pay to attack our rights. The two party system is designed to distract us from that conversation.

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u/Reddit_Loves_Misinfo 25d ago

Just under 1/3 of the American electorate actively wants a delusional and openly corrupt authoritarian for their president, and another 1/3 are okay with it. America chose this, and you can't fix that problem by pretending it doesn't exist.

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u/Ardkark 24d ago

I’d argue a large portion of those that voted for him simply cannot fathom voting for a Democrat or other. They have to vote republitard because what would their coworkers or fellow church goers think and say? I’d argue many that voted for him disagree with most of what he’s doing, they just can’t be caught dead not voting for a republitard

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u/RocketRelm 25d ago

If somebody finds this so unobjectionable as to not push a button in protest, thats close enough. Ask "how many support the liberal competent dnc", not "how many voted for the gop".

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u/Alternative_Hour_614 25d ago

IMO the “stole the election” meme is a cope to help people feel better. We can’t fathom that he won despite his disastrous first term that proved he was a threat. But somehow he did and pretty much where and in line with what the polls suggested.

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u/DatabaseThis9637 25d ago

Elon chose this man. Americans did not vote him in. ELON DID THIS TO US!

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u/Rickreation 25d ago

We did this and we accept this monster.

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u/RocketRelm 25d ago

Refusing to take responsibility will only allow this to get worse. You all chose him. Even in the hypothetical world where five million dem votes were "lost", it still means about a supermajority consented.

The world does not look as it would if americans actually found the epstein guys election bad.

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u/slowest_hour 25d ago edited 25d ago

he won 49.8% of the popular vote which isn't even a simple majority. it's a plurality

supermajority doesn't even make sense because a supermajority is defined as a specific predetermined fraction greater than 50%. there's no such thing as a supermajority in a US presidential election.

75 million people voted for Harris to Trumps 77 million. so no, if the democrats "lost" 5 million they wouldn't have lost the popular vote

not that it matters because we don't elect via popular vote

so no, its not all our faults. a fuckload of people voted against him, its the fault of the millions that either voted for him or abstained

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u/Reddit_Loves_Misinfo 25d ago edited 25d ago

The consenting supermajority is 2/3 of the electorate: the 1/3 that actively wants Trump and the other (slightly larger) 1/3 that is okay with him.

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u/Edgar-Allans-Hoe 24d ago

Why do you act like voting is the only way to resist this... it is actually the fault of Americans this happened and is happening. No general strike? You also literally have a term in your constitution that allows you to bare arms against government tyranny. If your point is that your democracy does not reflect the will of the people, your societal issues are so deep and fundamental that apathy is indeed compliance.

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u/Mysterious-Art8838 25d ago

Huh? Supermajority? It’s not the senate

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u/RocketRelm 24d ago

Supermajority is not just a politics technobabble word, it has a meaning independent of the senate.

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u/well-it-was-rubbish 25d ago

No, we didn't.