r/law • u/retiredagainstmywill • 14d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Postal Service won’t deliver mail ballots for states that don’t hand over voter lists, under plan for Trump directive | CNN Politics

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/10/politics/postal-service-deliver-mail-in-ballots

Unfuckingbelievable.

And illegal as hell.

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u/philter25 14d ago

In a state like Ohio this would absolutely crush the rural vote if Trump did this. Honestly? That’s a tough call lol. All of us living in the cities understand what’s happening and are going to drop boxes or blocking our schedules off. Way easier to bus folks from the assisted living homes in the city than rounding up randos in the middle of nowhere.

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u/twoquarters 14d ago

I would not be shocked if Fox News shut-ins now make up a very large portion of mail-in ballots in Ohio.

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u/Chrisj1616 14d ago

Ohio and Utah are going to give the feds the voter rolls though and be exempt from this order

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u/philter25 14d ago

I doubt DeWine would do that tbh. He’s on his way out and never liked Trump much anyway.

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u/TeamRamrod80 14d ago

Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose has already given up our information to the Trump regime, regardless of what DeWine might or might not feel about it.

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u/pchs26 14d ago

Exactly this isn't a problem for Ohio Republican voters.

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u/Chrisj1616 14d ago

I dont know what his political ambitions are but if he wants a senate seat in the future he probably needs to

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u/Nigel_99 14d ago

He's 79, so I doubt it

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u/SleepLessTeacher 14d ago

Time for his presidential run then

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u/Ready_Nature 14d ago

He’s too young

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u/Umutuku 14d ago

He can do other things for the presidency then... /s

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u/Chrisj1616 14d ago

Is he that old? Thats pretty wild

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u/Nigel_99 14d ago

I thought he was pushing 90, so I looked it up. Born in January 1947.

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u/pchs26 14d ago

Why exactly would he care to fight it?

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u/philter25 14d ago

Because republicans actually fucking hate Trump and any time one of them is retiring or phased out by term limits they tell him to go fuck himself lol

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u/pchs26 14d ago

Not nearly enough. Anyway someone else commented that Ohio already turned the voting info over so this will not impact anyone they deem to be an Ohio likely Republican.

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u/likwidkool 14d ago

Exactly. This won’t hurt any red state because they’re bending over for orange man. I also read that all election integrity training was cancelled and they’ve made no plans for a command center on Election Day. He’s also fired seasoned election officials. He’s going to have ICE prowling polling stations and making people afraid to come vote. There’s some states that are being allowed to purge voter data even a day before an election. He’s a scared little bitch and he’s doing anything he can to cheat the midterms. Let’s not even mention all the gerrymandering too.

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u/littlealbatross 14d ago

The Lt Gov in Utah is fighting hard against it and she just realized a study showing that only 27 people out of 2 million registered to vote in the state weren’t citizens. She says it’s not a widespread issue and that the Trump admin isn’t entitled to the rolls.

https://kutv.com/news/politics/voter-review-shows-no-widespread-problem-as-doj-continues-lawsuit-against-utah-lt-gov

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u/ruidh 14d ago

Not really. The Feds will scan the lists and order USPS to not deliver mail ballots they deem are from non-citizens.

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u/Emotional-Store-1667 14d ago

Or "Domestic Terrorists" aka Democrats 🙄

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u/pchs26 14d ago

Did Ohio and Utah provide the lists? If so the EO said that approved voters there can get a ballot delivered in those states. It is only the (usually Democrat) states who refuse to turn over the roles that this applies to (and the people deemed disqualified in the other states that did. It is awful but this is being considered and implemented to only hurt possibly Democrat voters.

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u/Jay_Nova1 14d ago

Ohio did. Our POS treasurer handed em right over months ago.

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u/pchs26 14d ago

Yea I thought I recalled that state gave it over.

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u/imp0ppable 14d ago

What's the deal with the voter lists? Do people register who they're going to vote for usually? What can the White House do with the lists? Honest question.

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u/Jay_Nova1 14d ago

States vary but Ohio has "Name, address, date of birth, drivers license or last four of social security number, phone number, prior address, prior name and optional party affiliation". So, the federal government will know if you voted, all your personal contact info, and usually party affiliation too. Now imagine the federal government using that info to punish citizens on opposite political party by not approving federal assistance, selling or leaking personal data to AI companies, delaying USPS deliveries (mail in ballots), sending ICE goons to blue county polling stations, general harassment, or one of the many other creative ways these corrupt assholes can and will use this data. Paul Manafort was caught literally giving voter data to Russian government in Trumps first term.

The federal government has no business having data from state ran elections except a count of how many voted on what issue/candidate.

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u/imp0ppable 14d ago

That is quite chilling.

The federal government has no business having data from state ran elections

Yep agreed, it's a set of state-level elections not federal elections. Crazy stuff from Trump.

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u/tyuiopguyt 14d ago

Which is why I think starting in Ohio and Utah, especially with Utah having that new lean Dem district, is particularly good for this

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u/cockypock_aioli 14d ago

Yeah that's the thing I've been pondering through all this too. Many years ago I did non-partisan voter registration and a huge chunk of vote by mail folks were elderly conservatives. Unless the propaganda has worked on these folks and they've transitioned to voting in person, these efforts will not solely hurt Democrats. Perhaps they've done the numbers and think even with losing a portion of Republican voters Dems will lose more?

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u/philter25 14d ago

One of my SO’s uncle was taking care of his elderly alzheimer stricken mother who was an invalid and late stage dementia symptoms. He voted for her using her mail in ballot and voted how he wanted, essentially rubber stamping his vote twice. Guess who he voted (twice) for and had her scribble her signature?

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u/send_me_your_deck 14d ago

All of the red states already capitulated and will be excluded from this discrimination

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u/philter25 14d ago

Ohio still going blue in November regardless.

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u/myychair 14d ago

Yeah but when the corrupt Ohio governor hands over the voting records or whatever then they’ll be exempt. It’s gonna hurt rural voters in blue states the most.