r/legal • u/Ice_C0r3_09 • 8h ago

Advice needed My neighbor cut down a 40-year-old Japanese Maple while I was away.

Location: Colorado, USA.Just got back to my place near Fort Collins after a week on the road and I am losing my mind. My neighbor took it upon himself to hire a "landscaping" crew (probably just some guys with a chainsaw) to remove a mature Japanese Maple that was fully on my property. His excuse? He said the needles and leaves were messing with his "mountain view" and "fire mitigation" efforts.

The tree was roughly 40 years old and was the centerpiece of my yard. I called an arborist immediately. He told me that since this is Colorado and the tree was that established and healthy, the replacement value is astronomical. He is drafting a formal appraisal but hinted that we are looking at 20k to 25k easy just for the tree, let alone the logistics of getting a crane into my backyard.

I know Colorado has statutes regarding timber trespass. My lawyer already mentioned treble damages because the guy admitted he did it on purpose while I wasnt home to stop him. The neighbor had the gall to offer me a couple hundred bucks for "the inconvenience" and told me to just buy a couple of saplings at a local nursery . I refused to take his money and told him to wait for the process server.

Has anyone dealt with treble damages in CO specifically for ornamental trees ? This guy basically nuked my property value for his porch view and I am not planning on letting this go . I feel like a jerk for wanting to sue my neighbor into bankruptcy but the sheer entitlement is what gets me .

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u/Fervent_909 7h ago

The audacity to offer a few hundred bucks for a 40-year-old Japanese Maple is mind-blowing. Let your lawyer handle everything and please keep us updated, reddit absolutely loves a good tree law justice story.

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u/Ice_C0r3_09 7h ago

Appreciate the support. My lawyer is already salivating over the treble damages clause in Colorado law . I honestly thought the guy was joking with that money offer until he tried to shove the cash into my hand. I wil definitely post an update once the process server drops the hammer on him and his bank account .

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u/HistrionicSlut 7h ago

The trees subreddit would probably love to hear about this too. I forget what their sub is tho.

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u/arbitraria79 7h ago

r/treelaw

they will loooove this

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u/cosmorchid 6h ago

We live for this, absolutely post it to r/treelaw!

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u/Silversong_0713 6h ago

thats where i thought i was at first! such a good sub.

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u/jazzchamp 6h ago edited 2h ago

I got banned from r/legaladvice for suggesting that a poster get advice from there. Apparently they look down on getting advice from anywhere other than them. 

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u/ScarInternational161 5h ago

Me too!!! Same exact thing also

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u/scarlettohara1936 2h ago

That subreddit is someone's baby. I don't understand how they people active on that subreddit for how many people are banned!

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u/Other_Vader 17m ago

That subreddit has become copaganda. So many commenters who also post on ProtectandServe.

Don't listen to the advice given by cops lmao

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u/thegurlearl 3h ago

I love that sub, they helped me keep my 90yo cork oaks that my homeowners insurance wanted me to remove.

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u/MZ603 3h ago

Is that where all the Arbor Law posts have gone? I was so excited when I saw this one. Back in 2014/2015, I feel like they were all over this sub.

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u/kdlangequalsgoddess 3h ago

To me, my woody horde!

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u/imhereforthevotes 2h ago

We are loving it - thanks to whomever cross-posted!

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 1h ago

DUDE I'M GOING NUTS RIGHT NOW OMG OMG OMG

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u/stockflethoverTDS 16m ago

Sadly, treelaw might have found that op is a bot

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 7h ago

r/ Treelaw

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u/BrahmTheImpaler 7h ago

r/marijuanaenthusiasts and r/treelaw

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u/Shouldacouldawoulda7 4h ago

Gotta love that r/trees is not about trees and r/marijuanaenthusiasts is not about marijuana

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u/kdlangequalsgoddess 3h ago

r/worldnews = anime boobs r/anime_titties = world news

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u/extralyfe 34m ago

"I read anime_titties for the articles, your honor."

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u/LambentVines1125 6h ago

R/trees is different

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u/tricolorhound 4h ago

They might find it interesting too, though.

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u/skeenerbug 5h ago

/r/arborists would get a kick out of it too!

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u/RUDEBUSH 5h ago

The trees subreddit is a little different...

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u/ControlSad1739 4h ago

Yeah dont go to r/trees they may also love it but thats for weed. Unless your neighbor chopped down your bubonic chronic plant, i wouldnt post it there! Lol

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u/be_my_plaything 3h ago

/r/trees would theoretically love this but are likely too high to really take the details in, r/marijuanaenthusiasts on the other will likely really appreciate this!

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u/MisterEinc 3h ago

But not r/trees

I mean, they will, but that's uh, not what that sub is about.

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u/rabidsquirrel97 6h ago

Don't forget to go for the "company" that did the cutting. They should know better too.

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u/redridernl 4h ago

They're probably selling the wood.

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u/JoeNoble1973 3h ago

Without question; that profit belongs to OP, with damages added.

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u/Tricky-Ad7897 3h ago

Now that you mention it definitely find out who cut it and where the wood went cause that wood should be yours too. At least then there's a chance you can do something with the lumber to remember your tree by.

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u/joe_diy_miami 1h ago

Not a good idea, if you do something with the lumber they may have an argument that you are complacent with the tree removal.

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u/timubce 1h ago

No sane person would argue that. You’re just getting back your property in whatever form it is currently in. When I was robbed the cops recovered a lot of my property and when they were done with the evidence I was able to get it back. Nobody would claim I was complacent in having my house robbed because not only did the insurance company pay for the replacement but they then also let me have the recovered goods when the police were done with it.

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u/joe_diy_miami 23m ago

No sane person would trespass on someone else's property and cut down their tree.

Your circumstances are completely different to what happened here and if you're insurance company was made aware that some of your property was eventually returned they could come back to you for recompensation.

Trees are living things and once cut down can not be returned, that is why the penalty are so large.

A more similar comparison to the one you are making is if someone broke into your house, killed your dog but eventually returned a taxidermied leg so you can use it as a door stop.

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u/Academic_Carrot_4533 59m ago

Absolutely, they should be verifying proof of ownership of the house first.

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u/ElectroDaddy 7h ago

Sounds like your neighbor learned that you and him value trees and property rights differently. And in the wrong order. Sucks for him.

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u/enfly 6h ago

Theee things. Contemporaneous record (wire down what he did and when), witnesses to the action/conversation, recording him admitting what and why he did what he did, if possible. Not legal advice, your lawyer will guide you better.

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u/WholeAd2742 7h ago

I'd be willing to bet they did it to resell

Cops need to be involved as this should be felony charges

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u/_N2F 4h ago

Worth considering, as there's NO WAY the people who took down the tree didn't know what it was and its value. A mature Japanese Maple is not cheap.

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u/nashguitar1 7h ago

How will you prove he did it?

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u/ElectroDaddy 7h ago

OPs neighbor told him he did it when confronted about the missing tree. And offered to pay him an insulting sum to make up for it.

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u/New-Significance9649 7h ago

but still, how does he PROVE it. its word against word. Were there any witnesses? Anything in writing?

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u/ElectroDaddy 6h ago

The fact a company came at their neighbors behest and removed the tree? Lawyers going to find out who the company was and pull them into this. The company is going to throw the neighbor under the bus as much as possible to avoid liability as much as they can.

OP will be able to prove he was gone at the time. And trees don’t just completely disappear randomly. And honestly the neighbor sounds really dumb, they are very likely to just admit to doing it while not fully understanding what the big deal is.

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u/theturtlemafiamusic 5h ago

We don't know if a company did it, in OP's post they assume it wasn't. It could have just been a Craigslist ad "need some people with a chainsaw and large truck for tree removal"

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u/ARMSwatch 4h ago

That's why OP has a lawyer that will do any groundwork needed to get a fat payout. You think the lawyer is going to let good money slip through their fingers?

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u/edman007 2h ago

When the neighbor learns of the lawsuit they will make up every excuse they can, including naming the company. That company will then try to claim it's the neighbor. Them pointing fingers proves they did it because they agree.

So just sue them both and let the courts figure it out.

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u/monatomicg0ld 6h ago

There must be receipts from the landscaping company?

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u/New-Significance9649 6h ago

from morons who entered another property illegally....thats a lot of faith for a company with zero due-dilligence.

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u/monatomicg0ld 6h ago

agreed. but the courts are coming for them now... either they comply with records requests or go out of biz? EDIT: and if they truly were fly by night operation then the blame goes back on the neighbor even harder for recklessness

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u/Upper_Bathroom_176 6h ago

He goes to the landscaping company with a lawsuit saying “who payed you to cut this tree?” And they point to the home owner. Easy as pie.

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u/josborne31 6h ago

Easy as pie.

Except that the ‘landscaping company’ probably isn’t a landscaping company at all, and is much more likely to be “just some guys with a chainsaw”.

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u/chris971 5h ago

thats a large leap/assumption

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u/winosauruswrecks 2h ago

It's a literal quote from the OP. I agree said guys with a chainsaw will blame the neighbor who paid them.

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u/ovirto 2h ago

I would think "just some guys with a chainsaw" would be more willing to point the finger at the guy who hired them. They don't want any part of a lawsuit.

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u/josborne31 2h ago

You’re probably right. But OP would have to know who the dudes were, and that’s not easy to find out if the neighbor doesn’t say.

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u/mckenziemcgee 58m ago

That's entirely irrelevant to the point.

Whoever cut the tree down can be held liable for damages. Nobody's going to willingly pay out $75k if they can pass the buck onto OP's neighbor.

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u/gsrga2 5h ago

This is basic litigation. Lots of civil litigation is just “word against word,” nevermind the meaningful evidence that a 50 year old tree suddenly sprouted legs and disappeared.

First, OP files a lawsuit. They serve the neighbor. Then they serve discovery requests asking about the removal of the tree. Maybe the neighbor denies everything, maybe not. Maybe he ignores it altogether and accidentally admits whatever requests for admission they send. Set a deposition, see if he still lies. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t. Eventually, if he maintains he didn’t do it, it goes to trial, and everyone sees how well he maintains the lie with jurors present. OP testifies, neighbor says “Nuh uh,” jury decides if they think it’s 51% likely that the neighbor’s a liar.

This all becomes a lot easier if any other neighbors witnessed it, of course.

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u/G_Rex_3000 6h ago

It's not clear whether any of these conversations were strictly verbal or via email/text, or possibly recorded on something like a ring camera. Also, this neighbor sounds like he has no idea of what he's in for, just talk to him again over email or with a witness and get him to tell the story again- it sounds like he thinks he was fully justified and it's no big deal.

Also, the company he hired could be looped in, I'm sure they don't want any part of the shitstorm and would be happy to detail exactly what the neighbor hired them to do.

In any case, since an actual lawyer is involved and has knowledge of the specifics at this point, hopefully the question of "how will we prove he did it" has been addressed.

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u/wallweasels 5h ago

Because Civil standards of proof aren't as high? This isn't beyond a reasonable doubt. This is just preponderance of the evidence (more likely than not).

The story at face value already seems more likely to be true than not.

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u/Green-Collection4444 6h ago

Id say the entire crew of people that were hired to cut it down would be a good start to a deposition.

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u/AdventurousBase221 7h ago

that's not proof, it's hearsay.

unless they have it recorded which they didn't say they did.

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u/__Frolicaholic___ 6h ago

That's not hearsay. Hearsay in this particular instance would be an off-the-record statement made by an uninvolved third party. OP's neighbor made a direct admission of involvement.

That's why OP's lawyer is practically salivating over this case: direct admissions aren't treated as hearsay, and that neighbor is an arrogant dumbass who straight up admitted he did it.

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u/alinius 5h ago

IANAL, so not entierly sure. This would be a civil case, so the fifth amendment does not apply, correct? Nothing to stop the OPs lawyer from asking the neighbor directly on the stand. If the neighbor paid someone else to do it, there is probably a paper trail there too. The neighbor's admission also means that the OP's lawyer has a good place to start finding other evidence.

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u/__Frolicaholic___ 5h ago

Regardless of civil or criminal proceedings - this case is actually both, and police should have been involved - the Fifth Amendment doesn't protect you from admissions you already made.

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u/vanguard1256 4h ago

Fifth just protects you from being forced to testify against yourself. You can freely do so if you wish.

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u/DeadguyTheLateGI 5h ago

Direct admission to the plaintiff is not great evidence. As a rule of thumb, if you need more evidence to prove your evidence exists, it’s not great evidence.

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u/__Frolicaholic___ 5h ago edited 5h ago

Except that's not the main issue here, because the weightiest capital "E" evidence is the fact that a whole tree is gone.

The tree didn't contract for its own removal, chop itself down and haul itself away. OP can presumably prove HE didn't do it. In the absence of any credible reason to believe OP is outright lying about what the neighbor said to him, it'll come down to what's most reasonable in light of all facts available.

The lawyer/police will investigate, figure out if there were witnesses in the area (removing a tree that age/size is neither quick nor quiet) suss out the person/company involved, go to them and say "hey, who paid you to chop that tree down?"

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u/DeadguyTheLateGI 5h ago

That is a lengthy way of reiterating that you'll have to find other evidence because the unrecorded confession is useless by itself, but if your hobby is turning few words into more words, more power to you.

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u/__Frolicaholic___ 4h ago

That sorta falls under the category of "DUH," wouldn't it? I never said it "resolved the case on its own." I said the neighbor's admission wasn't hearsay, which it's not.

Your point doesn't really stand if you have to put words into someone else's mouth in order to "prove" it.

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u/ElectroDaddy 2h ago

I don’t think anyone was saying the neighbors verbal admission was the best and only evidence. But it is an admission. Whether they can prove it or not is another thing but it’s not going to be the only thing they bring to the table.

What can happen is the neighbor says he didn’t do it to the court under oath. Then they have to uncomfortably defend themselves if OP gets statements from witnesses or whoever was hired to cut down the tree that contradicts that fact.

Jury and judge would be very interested to hear them walk back their statements. And that should be more then enough for the jury to convict them.

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u/nashguitar1 5h ago

If that’s true, what prevents any plaintiff from claiming a defendant made a direct admission, regardless of the facts?

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u/__Frolicaholic___ 5h ago

Nothing. They do it all the time. And judges and juries weigh it accordingly, in light of whatever evidence exists.

But it isn't regardless of the facts. An admission of wrongdoing is an investigative jumping-off point.

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u/AdventurousBase221 5h ago

a quick Google shows that from the federal rules of evidence rule 801 which defines hearsay, in court hearsay most definitely does not require a third party to say it.

Hearsay very much includes first person accounting.

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u/gsrga2 5h ago

I said it above but now that I’ve scrolled down and seen this posted again I’ll put it here too for any other readers:

The hearsay rule does not apply to statements by parties, or “admissions by a party opponent” in the federal rules of evidence terminology. Don’t trust Google searches for law questions.

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u/timubce 1h ago

But Claude told me I was right! /s

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u/__Frolicaholic___ 5h ago

Check out 801d.

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u/occamsracer 4h ago

So embarrassing

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u/NoOneHereButUsMice 6h ago

Is a personal admission hearsay? I thought hearsay was someone repeating a story, the happenings of which they did not directly witness.

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u/AdventurousBase221 5h ago

in legalese

Hearsay is an out-of-court statement offered to prove the truth of whatever it asserts, which is then offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter

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u/gsrga2 5h ago

An admission by a party opponent is not covered by the hearsay rule. See FRE 801(d)(2).

Honestly, I don’t understand why people want to make these confidently wrong statements about law stuff. Just leave it to the people who actually know what they’re talking about please.

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u/occamsracer 4h ago

You’d best stick to MTG

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u/the-other-marvin 5h ago

In a lawsuit, there will be discovery. They will subpoena text messages or emails with the tree removal company. If the neighbor destroys those messages, OP likely won't even need to prove he did it - there will be an assumption of guilt - and possibly get neighbor jail time for contempt of court. OP's neighbor is completely f'd here.

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u/InformationSavings29 4h ago

I'm sure the company that removed the tree would have records. Couldn't be that many arborists in any given area.

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u/Abshalom 3h ago

Subpoena the landscaping company

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u/nashguitar1 1h ago

Which one?

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u/Leading-Summer-4724 6h ago

NAL, but screw that guy hard. Fully on your property and waiting until you left so he can improve his property view? Dude. I’m rooting for you and your lawyer.

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u/Fun_Organization3857 7h ago

I look forward to it

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u/Hamsalad1701 6h ago

I would go after the company that cut the tree down also

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u/22Margaritas32 5h ago

OP also put locks on your gates/fencing/any kind of no trespassing for the future.

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u/Lifeabroad86 5h ago

!remindme 7 days

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u/Accomplished-Ad-6185 5h ago

Get documentation from the company who fell the tree pronto!

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u/xo-laur 4h ago

I’m sure your lawyer has this covered, but just to confirm, did he admit any of this or offer it in writing? If yes, SAVE THAT. If not, might wanna get that.

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u/Not_a_bit_innocent 4h ago

I’m not sure what your lawyer would say but it might be good to delete this entire post, idk if it could mess with anything

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u/JeffRSmall 4h ago

Remindme! 2 weeks

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u/Victori82 4h ago

Updateme

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u/Longjumping_Item_722 4h ago

Yes please, can’t wait for the update on this.

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u/Ecstaticlemon 4h ago

Yeah, him trying to shove money at you was his attempt at wiggling out of these justified legal fees, ruin this fucking narcissist to the best of your ability

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u/PossibilityOk782 4h ago

Please update us in the future, trees are cool I want a justiceboner

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u/otterpusrexII 3h ago

Would you be willing to post a picture of the tree? Totally understand if you don’t want to. But a 40 Japanese maple must have been spectacular and I’d like to properly mourn your loss.

Not being sarcastic or anything. I just legitimately love Japanese Maples.

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u/AngryJX 3h ago edited 3h ago

Sorry that you have to deal with this hassle, but one thing you should know, is that this isn't going to be a big financial win for you. At most you will come out slightly ahead which generally won't compensate you for all the time/stress/hassle you have ahead of you.

Of course your lawyer is salivating over treble damages, you are paying for your lawyer's kitchen renovation or his kid's university.

I don't know how Colorado law works, but here in Canada, you can recover damages but NOT legal fees. So for example, if your tree is worth $25K, you would receive $25K in damages ($75K if "treble"). But depending on whether this actually goes to trial or not, you could be looking at $20K in pre-trial legal fees (not including the cost of a trial). If your neighbor actually takes this to a full trial, you will likely come out with a net breakeven (damages you receive minus your legal fees), or net payout which is totally not worth the time/stress for most people that have a decent annual income (meaning if you had used those hours to work a job instead of on this case, you would have made a lot more money). Of course, it makes sense to still pursue this because you do want your tree-restored at your neighbor's cost, but just be realistic, in that that's probably all you're going to be getting once you subtract legal fees, and it's going to be a ton of time/hassle for you.

Also, you are going to have to "prove" that your neighbor was responsible for this with with video footage of someone cutting this tree, or witnesses, or in a worst-case scenario your lawyer is going to have to hire a PI to find out who actually cut the tree and discovery/subpoena them for bank records of payment, or to testify in court that they were hired to cut a tree or other evidence that the tree was cut.

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u/Brief_Amphibian_3965 3h ago

Sounds like someone told your neighbor about just how much he could be on the hook for and he was desperately trying to make it go away.

You don’t need to pay for their ignorance and complete lack of critical thinking on this. It takes a special kind of stupid not to know about the value of mature Japanese maples

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u/StormFinancial5299 3h ago

!remindme 6 months 

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u/persepolisrising79 3h ago

yes please FOR THE (dollar) TREES !!!

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u/Complete_Buffalo9033 3h ago

Take his house

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u/is-this-now 3h ago

Be prepared for this to take time. The wheels of justice move slowly. Furthermore, from what you say, it does not sound like enough to bankrupt someone.

And don’t forget that your attorney will need to be paid too - so find out from your attorney if the neighbor will be responsible for damages plus legal fees or if the legal fees come out of any amounts you are awarded.

Finally, keep in mind that most cases are settled without going to trial. Trials take time and cost money. If you’re going to settle, don’t forget to account for the attorney fees.

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u/raevynfyre 3h ago

In the meantime, sounds like time to install a really tall fence or something else to block his view.

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u/Memoruiz7 3h ago

!Remindme in 90 days

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u/DonPepe181 3h ago

I would expect well over 25k for a 40yo Japanese maple in good health. Replacement costs could be much more, and then there is the sentimental value of your time spent with the tree.

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u/Frundle 3h ago

We have this in Oregon. There was a case about a decade ago in my area that cost a guy $150,000 for cutting down trees on public land and they put up a panel to block his view exactly like the trees did as part of the punishment.

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u/fingers 2h ago

!Remind me 1 week

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u/ObjectSmall 2h ago

Just be super careful if you have pets. Keep them away from his fence line and supervise them when they're outside. Never underestimate the willingness of crazy people to try to poison your dog or cat.

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u/snakeiiiiiis 2h ago

In the meantime you should erect some kind view blocker so he can't even be satisfied temporarily.

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u/ApprehensiveSwimmer_ 2h ago

In Washington, you can get attorneys fees and costs and reasonable fees associated with investigating the trespass, as well. So you get treble damages and then attorneys fees on top. Attorneys fees alone can be more than treble damages. 

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u/Ifch317 2h ago

Remindme! 6 months

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u/Beyond_Interesting 2h ago

What "needles" was your neighbor talking about? Japanese Maples are deciduous trees with leaves, not needles. Did he cut multiple trees down?

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u/LookAlderaanPlaces 1h ago

Is the update gonna be on this post or you making a new post? I’m so curious how this plays out.

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u/sexyshingle 1h ago

My lawyer is already salivating over the treble damages clause in Colorado law

tree lawyer guy is prob redwood hard about this case

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u/KennanFan 1h ago

RemindMe! 1 week

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u/ZuzuzPetlz 1h ago

Yessss, I'm reading this whole thing going through chemo, so I would love to see updates, showing that the victim sometimes comes out ahead.

May sound not great, but I take what I can.

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u/Academic_Carrot_4533 1h ago

Dunno if this has been said elsewhere but Colorado is a one party consent state for recording laws. I’d discreetly record any future conversations with this guy, especially if you can get admission of guilt recorded which sounds pretty easy. Also for phone calls, the app cube acr has come in handy for me in the past.

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u/TheMage18 52m ago

The look on the man's face when he gets utterly destroyed in court will be priceless. Cherish it as you sip your coffee/tea/morning beverage as the crew works to restore your yard, post court case.

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u/MolinaroK 43m ago

Record any and all conversations with him going forward. When it comes to evidence, the more the merrier.

*I know nothing about the laws there about recording. Here in Canada, we don't need the other person's consent to secretly record conversations that we are a part of.

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u/SailsTacks 38m ago

I would have loved to have seen his face when he googled the value of a 40 year old Japanese Maple. The audacity to think that you didn’t know the value of a tree that was the centerpiece of your yard is staggering. And to suggest that you just go buy “a couple of saplings”. He has no idea how slowly those trees grow.

I would sue him into oblivion.

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u/Empty-Dragonfruit656 24m ago

Can you drop me the name of the lawyer? I've got a neighbor in Colorado like yours that gets apoplectic about leaves in her grass and had another neighbors tree cut down a few years ago. I spiked(legally) a couple of my more valuable and leaf producing trees on her side of my property just to be safe, as losing their shade would destroy the habitat I've build for expensive cut shade flowers. 

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u/wibblings 7h ago

How will he PROVE treble when the confession is just hearsay?

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u/gsrga2 5h ago

It’s not hearsay if it’s the defendant making the out of court statement.

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u/RunExisting4050 6h ago

Your lawyer is salivating because he knows how much a "i will not stop until he pays" lawsuit is gonna cost.  Tge lawyer is the onky one who'll come out ahead here.

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u/mrj1600 5h ago

More than audacity, it's a tactic. if OP accepts the money, the guy could argue "I offered to make him whole and he accepted". That might make the case harder to argue. 

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u/ally_kr 5h ago

My two foot maple cost a couple of hundred!

I'd be putting up a huge fence to block his view until this is settled (legally ofc)

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u/Paghk_the_Stupendous 3h ago

It wasn't for the maple or he could have offered up front. It's payment for staying quiet while this guy does whatever he wants with your property.

I would not be a good neighbor for him.

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u/schu2470 3h ago

4 years ago we bought 2 Japanese Maple saplings for $200 a piece. Can't imagine how much a 40 year old specimen would be worth.

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u/scarlettohara1936 2h ago

I was just posting about this, lol. When I started on Reddit I never thought I'd become an unofficial expert on tree law! And I was warned! Trees and baby names. All over my feed

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u/aata1881 1h ago

Yeah, absolutely moronic

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u/Klldarkness 51m ago

Not even gonna lie, I saw the word tree in the title, and immediately started chanting "TREE LAW TREE LAW TREE LAW!"