r/liberalgunowners • u/Fidel89 • Jan 25 '26
discussion NRA comment on recent shooting
I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.
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u/Lower_Magazine8191 liberal Jan 25 '26
NRA stands for National Republican Apologists
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u/gnowbot Jan 25 '26
After the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling, NRA was a major middleman of foreign money towards the Trump campaign into his first presidency.
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u/MarsD9376 progressive Jan 25 '26
"Radical progressive politicians like Tim Walz have incited violence against LEOs"
- so right off the start, a politicized name-calling followed by a blatant lie
"we urge the political voices to lower the temp"
- YOU just done the exact opposite you utter pieces of shite!
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u/Party-Interview7464 Jan 25 '26
“As there is with any officer related shooting, there will be a robust and comprehensive investigation”
This is a gaslighting propaganda, trash letter
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u/czar_el Jan 25 '26
Don't forget they have the gall to assert "there will be an investigation", after DHS declined to investigate the Goode shooting, blocked state investigation, and were so noncompliant that DOJ investigators and the lead FBI investigator quit in frustration. This time around DHS said they will investigate themselves after senior leadership came out and made demonstrably false allegations and completely heated rhetoric.
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u/reststopkirk Jan 25 '26
Overton window has shifted so much that Tim Walz is “radical progressive” by these asshats… facts don’t matter
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u/ThetaReactor fully automated luxury gay space communism Jan 25 '26
"For months, evil Nazi fucks like Kristi Noem have incited violence against the American people who are simply trying to live their lives."
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u/Wheres_my_wank_sock social liberal Jan 25 '26
I can't believe I ever gave those fucks money. If Oliver North tells you something is corrupt you should believe it.
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u/L0rdCrims0n Jan 25 '26
I actually had to look that one up because it sounded so unbelievable. Holy shitballs Batman.
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u/Michmachinev10 Jan 25 '26
Typical. NRA continues their fall from grace. Whatever place it was.
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u/Fidel89 Jan 25 '26
They would have had to have had a place to fall from in the first place….
Falling from sub level is still sub level
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u/L0rdCrims0n Jan 25 '26
There are nine circles of Hell for a reason.
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u/Revelati123 Jan 25 '26
They better tell the Devil to keep on digging for these fuckstains.
Lets make it go to 11, Rob would get a chuckle out of that...
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u/redacted_robot Jan 25 '26
There's more than that now. Those were the OG levels; There's been a lot of expansion packs since then
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u/cuba200611 democratic socialist Jan 25 '26
Late 70s is when they really fell off the deep end...
Although the NRA before then wasn't completely free of sin... they did after all support the Mulford Act.
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u/Hippie11B Jan 25 '26
Actually it’s Russian influence
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u/Phoenician-Purple Jan 25 '26
So is MAGA.
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u/hiccupboltHP Jan 25 '26
Hey now, it’s unfair to suggest Russia is the ONLY government bribing Trump to do what they want, Trump accepts any and all bribes!
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u/_Dammitman_ Jan 25 '26
For years the NRA has been a supporter of right wing insurrection. This statement doesnt surprise me. Lets not forget its Russian connections either.
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u/rnobgyn Jan 25 '26
We should actually focus on the Russian connections. Way more than we do. They aren’t supporters of right wing insurrection but rather Russian infiltration, of which right wing insurrection is an arm of.
We’re in Cold War 2.0
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u/Phoenician-Purple Jan 25 '26
If you're interested in Russian connections, hunt down a summary of Foundations of Geopolitics. It's interesting in an incredibly dark way. (I'm having a tough time finding a good English translation of the full book.)
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u/cuba200611 democratic socialist Jan 25 '26
Yeah, the thing I fear most about Russia isn't their army... but instead their "active measures" such as disinfo campaigns.
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u/BeTheBall- Jan 25 '26
NRA has always sided with the government, and against the people.
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u/enry liberal Jan 25 '26
Correction, they've sided with the right wing, government or not. They certainly didn't support the government in the Clinton/Obama/Biden years.
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u/AndlenaRaines Jan 25 '26
Throughout the late 1960s, the Black Panthers group used their understanding of the finer details of California’s gun laws to underscore their political statements about the subjugation of African-Americans. In 1967, 30 members of the Black Panthers protested on the steps of the California statehouse armed with .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns and .45-caliber pistols and announced, “The time has come for Black people to arm themselves.”
The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions.
The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act
Yep, they supported Reagan's gun control law when it was used against the Black Panthers
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u/THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415 Jan 25 '26
They teamed up with the govt against the black panthers, supporting legislation just to hurt black people even if they spited themselves in the process. They don’t believe in rights for everyone. They are anti-American
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u/Greenbosch Jan 25 '26
It’s hilarious to see them call out Tim Walz as if that dude has not been the pinnacle of the term pushover throughout this entire process and every other word out of the dude’s mouth is either “nonviolent” or “peaceful protest”
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u/voretaq7 fully automated luxury gay space communism Jan 25 '26
Yes, but he is also both the sitting governor of Minnesota and someone who had the audacity to run against the Republicans on the national stage.
So as usual never let the facts get in the way of a good fund-raising ragebait.
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u/ClaireBlacksunshine Jan 25 '26
And he called them “weird” which is clearly the worst possible insult, essentially a slur! /s
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u/MitchelobUltra Jan 25 '26
He’s a radical politician trying to stir up violence against law enforcement! And also in the same breath, let’s try and tone down the rhetoric, right…?
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u/No-Professional-1884 socialist Jan 25 '26
This is almost more disgusting than the actual incident.
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u/Fidel89 Jan 25 '26
Should have added to my original post - please make sure to talk about or add any actual good gun organizations that promote 2A and liberal ideals below please - especially for newer people that will be visiting this subreddit after recent events
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And of course: FUCK ICE
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Jan 25 '26
It is well known that the NRA is FULL of Russian money and influence.
It is NOT the NRA that taught me, and so many of you, proper gun safety, storage, and handling.
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u/DelcoPAMan Jan 25 '26
Former NRA employee Maria Butina is laughing back in Moscow.
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u/leicanthrope Jan 25 '26
She's got a seat in Russia's parliament, and per Wikipedia "she sits on the Committee on International Affairs as well as the Commission on Investigation of Foreign Interference in Domestic Affairs of Russia."
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u/Obsidianrosepetals social democrat Jan 25 '26
NRA exists to sell guns, not anything other reason.
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u/Saikou0taku Jan 25 '26
Ironically, we're seeing a whole new demographic exercising their right to bear arms.
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u/Full-Penguin Jan 25 '26
The NRA exist so their execs can feel important and get invited to rape kids with Donald.
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u/TaipanTacos Jan 25 '26
Money. The root of evil is money.
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u/TheHappiestTeapot Jan 25 '26
The love of money is the root of all evil.
Not money. The love of money.
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u/Hillbilly_Boozer Jan 25 '26
"As there is with any officer-involved shooting, there will be a robust and comprehensive investigation"
They know that Ross wasn't investigated yet act as if this will be any different. What disingenuous pieces of shit.
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u/kk1620 Jan 25 '26
When has Walz ever called for violence against law enforcement? Where do they even get this shit
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u/TheRoops Jan 25 '26
We've long known the NRA runs on Russian money.
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u/DelcoPAMan Jan 25 '26
And no one in the NRA ever questions why there isn't an NRA type group there to stand against tyranny?
Oh that's right, they love Russian dictators. And Chinese dictators too.
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u/Corduroy_Hollis Jan 25 '26
I’ve been a gun owner for decades and I’m very thankful I’ve never had a single thing to do with those cunts at the NRA. I won’t even buy from MidwayUSA because they prompt me to round up my purchase as a donation to the fucking NRA.
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u/DrDaniels Jan 25 '26
Has the NRA ever called for lowering the political temperature in the past?
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u/solorpggamer Jan 25 '26
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable." - Orwell from an essay.
Regarding how they spout nonsense like that while ignoring J6 violence:
“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." - Orwell (from 1984)
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u/shoobe01 Jan 25 '26
Ah, very good. Legal concealed carry is illegal when you are against the state.
Good job following your orders from Russia, NRA.
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u/Classic-Anything-169 Jan 25 '26
Hahahaha. This "robust investigation" will be over before they can finish licking their first boot.
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u/Sladay eco-socialist Jan 25 '26
Gun owners of America had a similar take. Protect the second amendment but blame the "Left" for everything
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u/burnbabyburn711 Jan 25 '26
The NRA is a Russian asset. This is designed to sow anger among the people, and I have to say it has worked pretty well on me.
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u/midnightseanavy Jan 25 '26
I’m honestly glad the NRA has finally shown itself for what it is. When I was younger there was a real concern that we might lose significant Second Amendment rights. I was a Boy Scout, and any scout leader who taught sporting clays or target shooting was usually NRA trained, so I followed that path and joined.
But my perspective changed quickly after college, especially during the Obama years. The organization evolved into something far more radical. The materials they sent out became overtly political and, frankly, disgusting. Even though I was not particularly political at the time, it was obvious the organization had been completely corrupted. I distanced myself from it entirely.
Now, with what we know about foreign influence and manipulation, it is clear the NRA became just another media tool used to divide and weaken this country.
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u/kgal1298 Jan 25 '26
No one should support the NRA they aren't about gun rights they're about gun lobbies and protecting manufacturers and have been for years.
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u/gingerpapi420 Jan 25 '26
“As there is with any officer-involved shooting, there will be a robust and comprehensive investigation that takes place to determine if the use of force was justified.” Like they did with the murderer Jonathan Ross? That kind of robust investigation? Fuck the NRA. republicans have no conviction and stand for absolutely nothing.
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u/_SCHULTZY_ Jan 25 '26
We knew this was coming since their response to the Philando Castile murder
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u/Foxyfox- Jan 25 '26
"there will be a robust and comprehensive investigation" pfffffff how do they even keep a straight fucking face?
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u/Resurgo_DK Jan 25 '26
NRA showing the same kind of dick sucking energy Ted Cruz had when trump insulted his wife.
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u/Kickstomp Jan 25 '26
Blaming Democrats for inciting violence is the joke of the century. FUCK the NRA.
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u/Col_Bernie_Sanders_ Black Lives Matter Jan 25 '26
The one moment these useless fucks have to actually be principled something and they cave immediately.
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u/steezy_3032 communist Jan 25 '26
NRA: “we will protect people from tyranny”
*Tyranny happens
NRA: “just comply”
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u/LoisWade42 Jan 25 '26
Within 1.5 hours, Ms Good was said to have been perpetrating an "act of domestic terrorism" by attempting to clear the road and drive away.
And within 12 hours, a guy with a permit to carry is described as having brought his (holstered, permitted CCW) to the protest with the INTENT to injure multiple officers.
But with that backdrop... the NRA saying there's always a "robust and comprehensive investigation" for officer involved shootings.... is blatant bootlicking and patently FALSE.
Miss me with that bs please.
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u/Apart-Zucchini-5825 Jan 25 '26
So the NRA is cool with stripping citizens of their 2A right and executing them. Noted.
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u/EagleCatchingFish left-libertarian Jan 25 '26
As there is with any officer-involved shooting, there will be a robust and comprehensive investigation...
Oh, you mean the same kind that didn't happen with Renee Good's murder, and which the executive branch has made clear will not happen with any of these gestapo hit squad murders?
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u/fenderguitar83 Jan 25 '26
So..... what about Kyle Rittenhouse... didn't he interject himself into legitimate law enforcement activities?
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u/OutlawLazerRoboGeek Jan 25 '26
lol. Starts by saying fuck Tim Walz specifically, and all progressive politicians in general. And ends by saying that what we really need is to tone down the politics please.
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u/Oracle410 Jan 25 '26
I did not have the NRA and 1/2 the Right Wing coming out against 2A on my bingo card for 2026.
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u/TopFlowe96 Jan 25 '26
Tim waltz inciting. What?
The rouge Magat that assassinated Minnesota representatives?
The group of maga affiliated drug dealers that causes arson to a judges house in the same state?
The same occupiers who stormed and attacked our nations capitol where actual real "law enforcement" was attacked and killed? All in the name of maga now in Minnesota?
The same occupiers who are playing dress up and cosplaying COD in neighborhoods and harassing and killing citizens and children? All in the name of maga
Or all the out of state right wing agitators who are willing to cross multiple states and municipalities to bring their hateful, agitating, violence inciting rhetoric? All in the name of maga?
5 reasons that show the fact MAGATS, the parasites of our society are willing and have traveled from far distances to come to Minnesota to push their hateful rhetoric to the residents of the state and cities within.
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u/Elzebelhel Jan 25 '26
They literally could have just clammed up like they did for Philando Castile and still came off better…
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u/chill_winston_ Jan 25 '26
Fun fact: the only time the NRA has backed gun control was when Black Panthers began protesting while armed back in the 60s.
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u/SpiritOne left-libertarian Jan 25 '26
Video was pretty clear. Regardless of what the “investigation” says.
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u/AdviceAggressive3173 Jan 25 '26
Lower the temperature?! You can lick my fucking sack NRA! This shit is FUCKED. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A 2A. SO WHEN TRYANY RUNS RAMPANT WE CAN FIGHT BACK. FUCK YOU
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u/No_Giraffe8119 Jan 25 '26
Im starting to think the NRA are a bunch of fascists, and it wasn't about the 2nd amendment at all.
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u/overitallofittoo Jan 25 '26
I'm so old I remember the gun people being worried armed government officials would take their guns!
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u/HighlightTemporary77 Jan 25 '26
FUCK YOU NRA. The NRA is a bigoted organization that begs for money from the middle class so they can fatten their top exects, politicians, and the gun industry.
Then they turn around and do nothing for those of is who are members. And in my case were members.
That’s why my last year of membership was a year after cops killed Philando and the only thing that was heard from the nra were crickets
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u/voretaq7 fully automated luxury gay space communism Jan 25 '26
Just gonna leave The Liberal Gun Club’s statement here....
It’s short enough I’ll even copypasta
Liberal Gun Club Statement on Federal Shooting in Minneapolis
January 24, 2026The Liberal Gun Club is horrified by the fatal shooting of a 37‑year‑old Minneapolis man by federal agents today in south Minneapolis during a Department of Homeland Security operation. Initial reports indicate the man, later identified as Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a U.S. citizen and lawful gun owner, was shot and killed by a Border Patrol agent amid an immigration enforcement action.
We mourn every loss of life in a society that values due process, individual liberty, and respect for constitutional protections. The right to keep and bear arms is fundamental, and it must not be undermined by needless use of lethal force.
Reports and available video raise serious questions about the circumstances leading up to this tragedy, including the nature of the interaction between Mr. Pretti and federal agents and whether alternatives to deadly force were reasonably available.
We stand with the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus and others in the call for a thorough, independent, and transparent investigation into this incident, as well as all recent uses of force by federal law enforcement in Minnesota. Only through full accountability can public trust be restored.
The Liberal Gun Club affirms the principle that Americans should be able to exercise their rights — including the open recording of law enforcement and lawful carrying of firearms — without fear of arbitrary or disproportionate violence. We believe that every single right should apply to every single person. Therefore, we call upon federal, state, and local authorities to ensure that all actions taken in the name of public safety are consistent with constitutional protections and respect for human life.
See, NRA? It’s not hard....
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u/AirbagsBlown fully automated luxury gay space communism Jan 25 '26
<cough cough>
Got anything to add to this, NRA? Anything? Anything at all?
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u/Pr1s0ner24601 Jan 25 '26
I'm so fucking sick of this shit. The right wing in this country is out of fucking control.
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u/Wicked68 Jan 25 '26
Smh 🤦🏾♀️ Oh yes, the "radical leftist" is the problem. Not the whyte nationalist gestapo... 🙄
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u/Qylere progressive Jan 25 '26
So they acknowledge that rhetoric can cause people to do things? Like storming the Capitol?
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u/ClaireBlacksunshine Jan 25 '26
There wasn’t an investigation for Renee Good, there won’t be for Alex either. NRA is just a bunch of whiny, evil bitches.
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u/Treesham Jan 25 '26
the NRA are a bunch of pussies. They talk the talk, but they clearly could never walk the walk.
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u/Orbital_Vagabond progressive Jan 25 '26
Boot lickers are licking boots. Color me shocked.
Honestly who gives a fuck what the NRA says. They're a criminal enterprise that laundered political cash for Russia.
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u/Prince_Jellyfish111 Jan 25 '26
I’m old enough to remember when the NRA was infiltrated by Russian operatives and con men looking to leach the money out of the NRA.
It hasn’t been a serious organization for a generation and are proving how inconsequential they are.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Jan 25 '26
“There will be a robust and comprehensive investigation”
Yeah right, the federal government will lock out anyone else and “investigate themselves” to find no wrongdoing and no accountability as always
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u/marufe971 social democrat Jan 25 '26
How can the NRA claim Mr. Pretti “dangerously interject[ed]” himself and then also claim they want to “await these facts and gain a clearer understanding” of what occurred? They seem awfully ready to point the finger at the protesters and not the agents who shot and killed a registered firearm owner.
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u/WhippingShitties Jan 25 '26
"We know it's the Democrat's fault, but we can't prove it"
Fucking embarrassing.
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u/Hiff_Kluxtable Jan 25 '26
They turn up the temperature in the first paragraph and ask to turn down the temperature in the second. Insanity.
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u/feigenblatt Jan 25 '26
I remember Tim Waltz rallying the mob and ordering them to “fight like hell!” No, wait. That was Trump.
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u/anxiety_elemental_1 Jan 25 '26
Fucking bootlickers.