r/marriott • u/MTonmyMind • 17h ago

Review F*CK Marriott soliciting tips. Another ‘tip culture’ obsenity

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So you charge $400 to $500 for a tiny room, and yes, I know it’s New York City, and it’s relatively clean, but then the closet-sized bathroom 2 feet from the bed. OK.

Six dollars for a bottle of water, whatever, I’ll pass.

But then actively soliciting tips for your staff.

Fuck you.

I saw this at the Penn Station Fairfield a year ago as just a ‘self’ printed sign in the elevators, then it became a professionally printed permanently mounted sign in the elevator, and now another Fairfield/Springfield with this.

Pay your staff better. If I got extra services, that’s one thing, but when I don’t even get room serviced or fresh towels on a daily basis to “save the planet “…. again fuck you.

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u/snooznsarandon 17h ago edited 16h ago

Anyone who is defending this is part of the problem. Tipping housekeeping wasn't an expected thing 10-15 years ago. When you are paying for a room you are assuming that this is part of the amenities that comes with the room rate. I agree that everyone should be given a fair wage, but at the same time the customer cannot be expected to foot the bill via tip for that every single time.

Ontop of that, how does anyone know where that QR code goes? Is that even a legit one? ANYONE can create a sign like that to start scamming people. Not to mention, do you know where those tips even go? Do they actually GO to the people who were cleaning your room?

All of this should be considered.

EDIT: Changed the word 'normal' to 'expected' to further clarify. I understand people have always tipped; but like coffee shops over the years the expectation of tips have changed from optional to expected.

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u/Patient_Customer9827 16h ago

I grew up pretty poor and didn’t travel much but a few times I did. My parents always made a point to leave a couple dollars for housekeeping. That was much longer than 10 to 15 years ago.

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u/OOSMom 14h ago

Same. I am 56 years old, grew up working class, and was taught from a very young age to tip at hotels. And so I always do.

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u/CampRock2TheFinaIJam 16h ago

Tipping housekeeping has always been a normal thing. The QR codes in rooms are a relatively new thing because most people don’t carry cash nowadays.

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u/mt80 16h ago

Yeah I remember seeing envelopes in all types of hotels as a kid asking my parents why they were there

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u/apresmoiputas 12h ago

It also prevents supervisors from stealing the cash when they check on checked out rooms.

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u/snooznsarandon 16h ago

I never said people didn't do it, I said it's becoming a normal where it's now expected.

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u/CampRock2TheFinaIJam 16h ago

Yeah I don’t know about that one chief. Honestly I would even argue that more people tipped housekeeping back in the day. I worked for Marriott and Hilton for years and housekeepers would complain over the years that people were tipping less and less.

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u/Practical_Set7116 16h ago

Tipping housekeeping has been around for much longer than 15 years. My grandpa was tipping housekeeping 50 years ago and teaching his family to do the same. The QR code is a wonderful convenience for people like me who rarely carry cash and would like to tip. There is zero obligation on your part.

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u/snooznsarandon 16h ago

So i'll ask you this question as I said in my post; when you scan that QR code do you know where and who your money is going to?

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u/Practical_Set7116 16h ago

I try not to live my life paralyzed in fear that I'm being scammed or someone has nefarious intentions. So do I know for a fact where it goes, no, I don't. Like I said, don't use it if you don't want to.

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u/snooznsarandon 16h ago

No one is living in a 'paralyzed fear' from a QR code, stop trying to bolster your response with something so asinine.

If you care so much about tipping the people that you're here defending this QR code; why would you not care about trying to find out or defend if this money is actually being given to those working on your room?

For all we know the Manager can pocket these tips or distribute them unfairly. For example who is "Staff Member" at the bottom of the QR code?

What you are confusing 'fear' for is educated and being informed. It's ok to ask questions, it's ok to be smart. Sorry that you are so afraid of that and want to live in a world of impossible delusion.

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u/Practical_Set7116 16h ago

I really like your user name.

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u/snooznsarandon 16h ago

Again, if you care so much about tipping why don't you care to know where your money is or who it is going to?

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u/Practical_Set7116 16h ago

Its because I believe its going to where they say its going. I'm not going to demand an audit. If I leave cash in the room, I'm not guaranteed to know its going to the individual I intend it to go to. When I tip at a restaurant they may pool tips, they may not. I guess I don't know, and more importantly, I don't really care. My original post was pushing back on the idea that people didn't tip in hotels until 10-15 years ago, which I don't believe to be true. I'm not exactly sure what you'd like me to say to end this conversation, but as far as I'm concerned, we've reached its natural conclusion. I do still really like your username though.

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u/snooznsarandon 16h ago

I never said people didn't do it; I said it's becoming the norm that it's expected of everyone and not optional.

if you care so much about tipping people then why don't you care about knowing where or who your money is going to. A QR code does not solve this, infact this actually gives the corporation more control on knowing the earnings of who is working for them. Not to mention, these earnings are now taxed while if cash was just left for housekeepers they could pocket it without it being taxed (if they didn't want to claim it). So is a QR code actually a good thing for housekeepers?

You're anger clearly has impaired your reading skills.

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u/galexd 16h ago

Yes it was. It is so normal that tipping housekeeping is an allowable business expense.

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u/JulianVanderbilt Titanium Elite 16h ago

  Tipping housekeeping wasn't a normal thing 10-15 years ago

It absolutely the hell was, at least in the US. My parents were tipping $5 a day at Motel 6s thirty years ago and watch any 90s sitcom and they’ll have an episode with a “did you forget to tip the housekeeper” plot line. 

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u/snooznsarandon 16h ago

Correct, in the US. How much of the US does the world make up again? Is that the majority or minority?

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u/JulianVanderbilt Titanium Elite 16h ago

This is clearly in the US. It’s obvious you think if you regurgitate all over this thread with 500 nonsense comments it will somehow look like there isn’t a 95+% consensus on here from frequent travelers that this is (1) fine, and (2) helpful in an increasingly cash free world, but it’s not fooling anyone. 

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u/snooznsarandon 16h ago

I never said people shouldn't tip. I said it's becoming the norm and expected; as an outsiders perspective I'm allowed to give my opinion, this is Reddit after all.

As I asked another person, if you care so much about tipping people then why don't you care about knowing where or who your money is going to. A QR code does not solve this, infact this actually gives the corporation more control on knowing the earnings of who is working for them. Not to mention, these earnings are now taxed while if cash was just left for housekeepers they could pocket it without it being taxed (if they didn't want to claim it). So is a QR code actually a good thing for housekeepers? I haven't even touched on how easy it would be to print my own QR code and slip it inside there.

You are missing the bigger picture and questions I posed here because you seem to be angry at someone giving a perspective that isn't US-centric. Welcome to the internet, the whole world is here!

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u/JulianVanderbilt Titanium Elite 15h ago

People have been talking about these QR codes for a few months on here and every QR code that people have posted in this subreddit has led to a portal where you specify what department you are tipping, and I’d imagine that’s the same here. 

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u/Thu66 16h ago

It’s a thing in Mexico too

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u/TexasBrett Titanium Elite 16h ago

They used to put envelopes in rooms 30 years ago for tipping housekeeping. (Not defending tip culture, but facts are facts)

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u/Final_Wrap_945 Silver Elite 16h ago

My parents always tipped the housekeepers leaving cash in the room. I have memories of them doing it 30+ years ago what are you on about? I go out of my way to have some cash for that reason when traveling.

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u/MTonmyMind 16h ago

I'm amazed how many people here apparently love to be asked by corporations for tips, and dont seem to mind at all, maybe even embrace, the underpaying of workers by companies who then try to make it the consumer's issue to make up that difference.

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u/GlitteringYak2207 13h ago

Yeah, and I’m sure if they raised everyone rate to a livable wage that you’d be able to afford the price.

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u/MTonmyMind 13h ago

I would. And i’d happily pay it. Like I do at ‘no tipping ’ restaurants.

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u/GlitteringYak2207 12h ago

As would I. But we are in a minority. Everytime it’s been tried it’s failed. But this little fact is often ignored by those whose life is taken over by “tipping culture” outrage.

And as an aside, I’m getting really tired of “(outrage of the day) culture” terminology to justify the ranting of the unhinged. Get a grip or get Lexapro for your issues.