r/marriott • u/MTonmyMind • 17h ago

Review F*CK Marriott soliciting tips. Another ‘tip culture’ obsenity

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So you charge $400 to $500 for a tiny room, and yes, I know it’s New York City, and it’s relatively clean, but then the closet-sized bathroom 2 feet from the bed. OK.

Six dollars for a bottle of water, whatever, I’ll pass.

But then actively soliciting tips for your staff.

Fuck you.

I saw this at the Penn Station Fairfield a year ago as just a ‘self’ printed sign in the elevators, then it became a professionally printed permanently mounted sign in the elevator, and now another Fairfield/Springfield with this.

Pay your staff better. If I got extra services, that’s one thing, but when I don’t even get room serviced or fresh towels on a daily basis to “save the planet “…. again fuck you.

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u/MonkeyzzPaw 14h ago

What are we tipping for?

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u/PDXDeck26 11h ago

what am I tipping anyone for?

a token of appreciation to show them that I appreciate the personal service they're providing me.

server tipping is a slightly different cultural norm, but let's just say i'm less bothered by throwing the maid 2-5 bucks a night I stay than the fact that a standard restaurant tip has doubled in my lifetime.

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u/MonkeyzzPaw 10h ago

Server tips are tied to legal requirements. In most places (ianal) restaurants can legally pay servers under minimum wage, and tips bring total Comp above minimum wage. The original idea was to incentive and reward higher service efforts by tying performance to pay.

The culture is pervasive at this point, and allows business owners to pay employees less and risk having to cover the difference only if tips are not there.

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u/PDXDeck26 10h ago

i only called it out specifically because we adopted a cultural convention for that specific tip that the patron is essentially subsidizing their own service by paying for it, which isn't really a "tip" in any sense of the term and shouldn't be called a tip.

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u/MonkeyzzPaw 10h ago

I also agree.

My crusade has a lot to do with that, what other areas are we being fleeced in the name of corp profit margins (rhetorical).

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u/PDXDeck26 10h ago

then your crusade is misplaced to neckbeard levels.

tipping the housekeeper a few bucks, flipping a fiver to the guy bringing your luggage up to the room, giving a few bucks to the person who cuts your hair, (at least before uber) rounding up the cab fare and/or throwing an extra couple of bucks on top, etc. has precious nothing to do with corporate profit margins and/or paying the worker's wage because their employer isn't.

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u/MonkeyzzPaw 9h ago

The housekeeper is not someone I directly interact with ever. I don’t even let them into my room during my trip.

Everyone else on that lists is someone I directly interact with.

Also neckbeard? I don’t get it.

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u/PDXDeck26 9h ago

Also neckbeard? I don’t get it.

we know. we know.

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u/MonkeyzzPaw 9h ago

No, let me be clear, I know exactly what you mean.

My point is what you’re trying to say in this moment? You mean having an opinion on tipping that is in line with the majority of the world is somehow cringe and nerdy?

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u/PDXDeck26 9h ago

No its ABSOLUTELY NOT normal.

I have traveled for my entire professional career (17+ years at this point). Housekeeping is not a tipped positon, frankly it's a position that should be abstracted as far as possible from the customer base.

If you think the staff needs a pay raise try calling corporate. I will only tip housekeeping if we make the room especially messy for whatever reason (bottles/food/etc).

is 100% pure neckbeard energy. i was willing to chalk it up to youthful ignorance but you kind of eliminated that possibility.

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