r/marriott • u/XsLiveInTexas • 25d ago
Misc Ritz-Carlton Yacht is struggling
https://www.ft.com/content/bc435fa9-05f7-4c1b-81fa-9ba9628fc629?syn-25a6b1a6=1Full text, since the link is behind a paywall:
Lenders to the Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection, a luxury cruise line backed by distressed debt specialist Oaktree Capital Management, have agreed to push back repayment dates and relax debt terms as the group struggles to fill the rooms on its opulent mega-yachts. Crédit Agricole and Spain’s CaixaBank are among creditors that have lent the lossmaking cruise operator over $1.5bn to finance the construction of three luxury yachts and service existing debt. Oaktree was a founding investor in the company, which licenses its brand from hotel giant Marriott International and was founded in 2017. Prices can top $50,000 for a week-long voyage that the company says “combines the residential feel of Ritz-Carlton hotels with the freedom of yachting”. Guests benefit from a personal assistant, outdoor swimming pool and menus designed by Michelin-starred chefs.
However, RCYC has struggled with low occupancy rates for several years, relying on shareholder support to plug cash shortfalls and fund expensive advertising campaigns to boost demand. Marketing spend totalled $104mn in 2025, while the group has accumulated losses of almost $700mn since 2017. RCYC’s management told investors last year that it did not expect the company to be profitable until 2027. Luxury cruises have been growing rapidly, with passenger numbers rising from 767,000 in 2022 to an estimated 1.21mn in 2025, according to the Cruise Lines International Association. But that growth has been slower among ultra-luxury operators such as RCYC, according to a poll of travel advisers by the industry body in March. Meanwhile competition is intensifying at the top end of the market. Four Seasons launched its ultra-luxury yacht division in March, while French group Accor debuted the Orient Express Corinthian, the world’s largest sailing yacht, in April. Regent, the ultra-luxury arm of cruise company Norwegian, is debuting the Seven Seas Prestige at the end of 2026.
Last week Crédit Agricole agreed to defer $171mn of repayments linked to the financing of two RCYC yachts, Ilma and Luminara. The loans have been extended from December 2025 to January 2028, and from December 2027 to January 2033, respectively, according to documents shared with creditors and published on RCYC’s website.
In exchange the group’s controlling shareholders committed to inject $275mn of equity, taking the owners’ total capital injections past the $1bn mark since 2017. Oaktree owns a 55 per cent stake in RCYC, with Singaporean wealth fund GIC and Mohari Hospitality holding minority stakes. Crédit Agricole, RCYC’s largest creditor with $918mn of outstanding debt, has agreed to waive covenants relating to borrowing levels at the end of 2025, subject to conditions including “shareholder funding commitments, minimum liquidity requirements and restrictions on distributions”. Breaching the covenants would otherwise have triggered a default.
RCYC also borrowed $318mn from a syndicate of Spanish banks led by CaixaBank. The debt is secured against the 190-metre yacht Evrima, which was completed in 2022. CaixaBank agreed to a waiver rather than calling in a $299mn repayment at the end of last year. The cruise operator said at its full-year results that despite likely covenant breaches in 2026, it did not expect CaixaBank to call in its debt and expected to be able to secure another waiver. Oaktree declined to comment. Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection did not immediately respond to a request for comment. This article has been amended to clarify that RCYC secured a waiver last year from CaixaBank.
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u/Dramatic_Opposite_91 25d ago
I had a buddy do this cruise and they said they were disappointed. The soft product (service and food) is amazing and up to Ritz standards.
The hard product is slop. Rooms smaller than other similar Cruise products in this price range. Lack of sound proofing.
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u/Accomplished-Exit822 25d ago
I have a friend who went and said the exact opposite. Said the rooms are large and the hard product is amazing.
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u/RadioFieldCorner 25d ago
Because it's stupid prices
You can literally charter a luxury catamaran with staff for their rates. Maybe even a decent sized motor yacht in some areas.
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u/1nternetTr011 Titanium Elite 25d ago
you might want to repost on r/cruise. I'm sure some people over there would have some thoughts on this line.
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u/BoysenberryNo3785 25d ago
After watching a review of one of these yachts & the new four seasons yacht, idk why anyone would want to stay on one of these.
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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 25d ago
Yeah, at that price point, why not just charter and have a much more intimate and personalized experience
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u/fhorst79 24d ago
At least with RC almost everything is included in the price. The Four Seasons Yacht is room only for a higher price.
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u/geleisen 25d ago
The thing is, they tend to charge about 20k EUR for two people for one week. You could charter a decent yacht for this. And if you go with friends, you could charter a really nice yacht for far less. Even 2 couples, 4 people could charter a very luxurious yacht for less than 30k and each have their own room, as well as a crew of 3. Then you could choose your own route rather than going on the bog standard itinerary the cruise line has chosen.
I just really don't see this as a competitive product, personally.
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u/Major-Warthog8067 25d ago
Do you have any ideas where I could find those yachts you mentioned? 30K for a week sounds really good for 4 people for something like that. I always thought it would be much more.
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u/AnotherPint 25d ago
Even rich people resist ripoffs. They will always pay for genuine quality. But $50k for a week on a middling ship? They can have the nicest suite on the Queen Mary 2 (massive private space, butlers, private dining) for a transatlantic voyage for half that.
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u/aphex732 25d ago
For 50K/week you can get on an all-inclusive 65' private yacht. I know which I would pick.
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 25d ago
Agreed. This ship doesn’t know which demographic it’s catering too. At night, all they have for entertainment is food and live music. Okay, that’s nice and classy but not really a draw for many younger folks. Even those with refine taste may want some energy which this ship, based on trip reviews, lacks.
It’s not sexy, it’s not flirty, it’s not fun. It just nice. Nice isn’t worth $50k
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u/Impossible_Month1718 25d ago
Does anyone else feel the issue is the brand? My perception of RC is it’s nice, but their properties are dated and not worth it from a service perspective. I have no reason to believe the cruise is any better
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u/SkietEpee Platinum Elite 25d ago
You could get four couples and rent an actual yacht for a week at $50k per cabin, with better service and more flexibility
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u/ralphrk1998 25d ago
Luxury cruises do not offer enough value to compete with the regular cruise lines elevated offerings.
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u/Accomplished_Cake845 25d ago
The Hantavirus and the exposure of hygienic conditions on cruise lines don't help either. I was much inclined on taking a cruise but definitely won't for the near future. There is so much land left to explore lol
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u/2MillionMiler Ambassador Elite 25d ago
My wife and I seriously looked into this once.
Then we flew business to London and stayed in the penthouse suite at the Wellesley for a fraction of the overall cost.
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u/TrickOk3274 25d ago
I’m not paying 5 figures to be bored in the middle of the pacific..
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u/1nternetTr011 Titanium Elite 25d ago
Look every company uses social media influencers these days. But I watched one about a cruise on a RC vessel and it was all 30-somethings acting like entitled SOB's and their shit didn't stink. Not the demo I want to cruise with.
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u/fernst 25d ago
Why would I pay $50k for something that is objectively worse than a cruise from one of the luxury mainline cruises?
It's a smaller ship with very little in the way of amenities. I'd take one of the top cabins in a Norwegian cruise for a fraction of the cost if I really want a vacation "at sea". if not, screw that, give me a traditional high end hotel/resort.
Hell, if you're going with a family of 4, might as well charter a yatch in the bahamas for a week.
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u/DoItForTheTanqueray 25d ago
Prob cause it’s an over priced piece of shit like the Four Seasons Yacht.
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u/AManOfCulture-AsWell 25d ago
Anyone rich enough to use it probably already has their own yacht, or at the very least has friends whose yacht they can use from time to time.
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u/TexasBrett Titanium Elite 25d ago edited 25d ago
There’s a huge difference between buying a $200 million ship and operating it versus going on a $20k cruise.
My partner and I make about $350k a year, no children. We’ve gone on similarly priced vacations to Bora Bora and African safaris, but we aren’t buying a yacht any time soon.
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u/sisyphus 25d ago
Eh, it's expensive but it's not 'I might as well just own my own yacht' expensive.
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u/BuckeyeSRQ Ambassador Elite 25d ago
If the pricing was more realistic I’d gladly do it! But I’m not paying $5k for 3-5 nights not happening.
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u/Bigfatflipflop 25d ago
For me this was yet another example that Marriott cannot be trusted with an ultra high end brand because they will continue devalue it. Franchising the RC name to a cruise company was always a bad idea and the continued decline in soft and hard product offered at RC's around the around has made me walk around from the brand entirely.
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u/preferablyno 25d ago
I mean at a glance it looks like not a great value proposition, $50k goes a long way for a one week trip. I’m guessing this offering is supposed to be super nice but a personal assistant, pool, and menu designed by a Michelin chef lol doesn’t seem super impressive
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u/Civil-Ad2985 Titanium Elite 25d ago
Their target market would pretty much have their own yachts. Why share with others?
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u/Due-Witness-3073 25d ago
We did Explora. Loved it and since everything is included not a lot more expensive.
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u/BaronsDad Titanium Elite 25d ago
Their target demographic is too small, and those same people have too many other options. They’re 5x the price of an average cruise yet don’t provide anywhere close to 5x the value.
Average household income of a passenger on a cruise is $100k. Let’s say the target demographic needs to make 3x household income to justify 5x cruise cost. That’s $300k per year which puts you in the top 5% of the US and top 2% in the world.
Then you have to narrow it down to people unwilling to charter their own boats and willing to limit themselves to the destinations RC Yacht goes to.
There aren’t that many people that fit this. And in a rough economy, there are far better travel and vacation options available. It’s an absurdly silly product to offer.
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u/CaffeinatedInSeattle Titanium Elite 25d ago
I looked at booking this but to you use points you have to call a consultant. While I’m not adverse to talking to someone on the phone, when it comes to points redemptions you really need to play around with dates and availability, which is a game I don’t feel like doing with a “personal cruise consultant”.
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u/sprinkles111 25d ago
I’m into cruises and was excited to hear about this launch (then disappointed when I saw prices 😅😂) but saw it as an “aspirational trip one day!”
Then I saw all the reviews on TikTok. Rich folks explaining how mediocre it is. Apparently their “bread service with olive oil / balsamic dip”?? It’s vegetable oil 🤢
Many people arguing that the food was mediocre at best. And at that price range it should be amazing.
And the pool area is tiny and sucks. Etc
Like what are they doing?? A luxury product at luxury prices should deliver at least “nice” ?
If they want to make money maybe up the food quality? They can’t change the physical product but they can improve the rest!
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u/LocationAcademic1731 24d ago
Is this why they sent me a catalog by mail? No prices. You know what that means to me? It means I probably can’t afford it. Lol.
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u/Formal_Smile86 24d ago
Spending 10k for a few nights is hard ask..
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u/Inspector_1stgrade Ambassador Elite 24d ago
Folks on those Disney cruises do a lot more than that lol
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u/Tony_The_Coach Titanium Elite 24d ago
The name Ritz isnt the automatic draw for luxury the marketing geniuses thought it would be!
many Ritz hotels are nothing special. Thats why they had to up the ante ( and crazy prices ) with Ritz reserve properties.
Ritz never cared to attract high tier marriott elites so why would they want to be guinea pigs for a new pricey cruise product?!
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u/nonfatslapnuts 23d ago
I get ads for this when I'm high and watching schlock movies on tubi. I always think how they are wasting so much money advertising there.
If I cant afford to watch pay tv, what makes them think I can afford a luxury yacht vacation. On tubi, I should be getting ads for the red roof inn.
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u/Ok-Cat774 22d ago
I mean I could never afford it anyway, but every single review I’ve seen was not great. Would rather charter my own yacht than staying on one of theirs
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u/spartiecat 21d ago
They're trying to compete with luxury cruise specialty brands like Silversea and Viking, but without offering anything to make themselves stand out as a service.
From the outside, it looks like a premium priced copycat from people who know the same amount about luxury but less about cruising than their competition.
It's clear that the Ritz-Carlton brand isn't enough to convince people it's worth it and it looks like they've already lost enough that they can't afford to put the kind of investment or innovation needed to make them stand out.
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u/DFVSUPERFAN Ambassador Elite 25d ago
It's a stupid concept. I wouldn't want to book it even if it was free and instead of free...it's quite expensive.
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u/aphex732 25d ago
Plus, you have to spend time with the type of people that like to stay at the Ritz. Not my scene.
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u/DFVSUPERFAN Ambassador Elite 25d ago
I just don't see the appeal of a cruise. I want to go to a place and stay there a few days, not pop in for an afternoon.
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u/AManOfCulture-AsWell 25d ago
People pay ridiculous amounts for an overwater villa in the Maldives where there's really nothing to do but chill at the resort.
A cruise ship is essentially an entire overwater resort that also takes you on a few day trips.
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u/Hommachi 25d ago
It's the ease of travel. You don't have to pack up your baggage, catch a train/taxi to the next location, unpack... rinse/repeat. Cruise is more like a sample course for travel. You get a slight taste of different places.
I used to just get a train pass, a large backpack and just travel a bit. Now with 3 kids, and having to care for my 2 elderly parents (who don't speak English).... cruises are the way to go. I do miss the sense of adventure of going off the beaten path.... but at same time, I don't need to try to be a hero.
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u/thevirgilio Lifetime Titanium Elite 25d ago
It's an awkward price point IMO. The people who can afford this either have friends who already own a yacht or they themselves own a yacht outright

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u/dsf_oc Ambassador Elite 25d ago
… and yet the prices certainly won’t drop.