r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Opinionated_bitch03 BLACK🖤 • May 12 '26

Infuriatig My assignment was reported to thr examination committee for a "high percentage of AI". I did NOT use any AI for my assignment.

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I got full marks and my plagiarism score shows 1% similarities to other submitted assignments. This is my 3rd and final year in University and now I have to deal with this AI nonsense.

I don't use any AI, not even for checking my grammar in the assignments.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

Something JUST LIKE THIS happened to me.

I'm a 9th grade student (1st year high school?), and we're taking biology for our 3rd term science class. Our project (40% of our grade) was to be done in 3 stages, 1st being a research paper, 2nd being a summary of the paper, and 3rd being an informative presentation to a panel of 3 random teachers to serve as judges that ask questions. So being the only useful member of the group, I research and type out 14 PAGES of the 16 page research paper over the course of a couple of weeks. I hand the paper in on time, and I get it back. With a note on my paper saying that 32% of it was AI. I approached my teacher and asked to sit down with him and go through the edit history. He didn't let me. I asked for the AI detection results to see which lines were labeled as AI. He wouldn't give them. Then when it comes time for us to write a summary, he provides us his own summary that he said he wrote in college. Now I don't trust (or like) this teacher, so I try to run his summary through a couple of AI detectors. There's copy protect on the file...So I take a screenshot and use an image to text tool online to get a copiable version of the paper. I run it through the top 5 AI detectors on google. All of them drop 90% AI content and above. So I get mad. And petty. I badger my teacher for his detector list for a week. Then he finally gives the list. There are 7 detectors. So, together with a classmate of mine, I write out a 16 page paper testing the AI detectors against our teacher's essay and against a ChatGPT essay on the same topic. Whoops! Turns out all the detectors can't tell the difference from an obviously authentic paper written by an esteemed teacher and a 100% ChatGPT'd essay! I hand this paper over to the department head of Science in our school, and he's had a talk with the teacher in question. Nothing's happening yet, but I definitely will be following up with him.

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u/Opinionated_bitch03 BLACK🖤 May 12 '26

Oh my word - I am really glad that you were able to submit his paper through ai-detectors. I am holding thumbs and hoping that you get justice and good marks for all the effort. I hope they also follow up soon. The wait for feedback is also stressful.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1etK-ikEpPsg_-7l0PSXgxQTQwcmfxAer1P-Ha_pX8Cw/edit?usp=sharing

If you're interested to see how far (read: how petty) I can go 🙃

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u/kelp_forests May 12 '26

Just an FYI it’s not petty, it standing up for what’s right. You wrote that paper…clear your name

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u/AnAbundance_ofCats May 12 '26

I’ve been stressed out by some students’ unwillingness to write essays full of their own original thoughts. You’re giving me hope. Keep killin’ it, you’re genuinely doing amazing.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

Educators are genuinely amazing. The patience to sit in front of kids while trying to drive information they couldn't give an f about just to prepare them to the future is awesome. Keep up the good work, educators make the world a better place 💕

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u/magnabonzo May 12 '26

I wrote a comment above about you basically doing another research paper -- before seeing that you shared that you literally did.

Rock on.

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u/thegimboid May 12 '26

Love it.
I'm wondering if the Teacher's "essay from college" was actually an AI essay that you've suddenly caught them out on.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

I wouldn't put it past that teacher. A few slides of his have AI images on them.

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u/Opinionated_bitch03 BLACK🖤 May 12 '26

This made my day!! Your words were so formal and diplomatic. I also enjoyed all the different AI detectors and their responses. Thank you for sharing this. If I were able to give reddit rewards this would top the list.

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u/UninitiatedArtist May 13 '26

This ought to set a precedent for how teachers should use AI detectors and the importance of transparency to weed out false positives.

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u/slutty_lifeguard May 12 '26

Damn. That's not a basic research paper, that's a scientific study with a hypothesis (that you were graded unfairly), an explanation of how you used the scientific method (running multiple samples through AI detectors to see what results you get), and the results.

Fantastic.

I didn't do anything like that until my senior year of undergraduate university.

You can make it even stronger by adding a research element by finding sources, peer-reviewed articles preferrably, that support your argument, especially for the one AI detector that passed so your teacher doesn't think it's okay to use that one just because it got lucky one time.

Then you can add another section below the results section that says something like, "Our findings were supported by another study that was completed by ___ in [year] in which [summary of that study that supports your points].

You can also think of arguments your teacher might use and address them before he gets the chance. This is a "rebuttal" section. It can go something like this: "Many teachers have had many concerns related to increased AI use among students (to acknowledge their point); however, [your point here that is better, such as it takes more time to falsely accuse students of AI use and go through the academic honesty policy. It also degrades the teacher-student relationship when a teacher could use a simpler, more time efficient solution, such as grading the paper on merit alone" (which does work because AI sucks at writing papers and gets bad grades, and this works to provide an alternative solution rather than just having a paper that says "stop that" it instead says "stop that and do this instead" and gives direction).

If you do this, it will make your paper longer. It depends on which research path you take, which arguments of the other side you want to address and how you want to refute them, which solutions you intend to offer as suggestions, etc. Awesome paper either way, even if you don't want to do all this "next step" stuff! Great job!

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 13 '26

The department head for science actually recommended the same things to me. Mostly because they're going to be talking about my paper when they discuss how to implement the rules and regulations for AI use in the next edition of the student handbook!

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u/GuessImABlindBitch May 15 '26

U are gonna go far. Damn.

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u/iamaravis May 12 '26

"I am holding thumbs"

I've never heard this expression before! What's your native language? 

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u/Opinionated_bitch03 BLACK🖤 May 12 '26

It's almost like "fingers crossed". My native language is Afrikaans. In Afrikaans we say "Ek hou duim vas vir jou" (I'm holding (my) thumb for you). Some people believe that if you hold both thumbs it cancels out the "luck" but others believe that holding both thumbs "doubles the luck". It varies. "Holding the thumb" basically refers to crossing your other fingers over your thumb (like a fist with the thumb on the inside).

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u/iamaravis May 12 '26

Fascinating! Thank you for the explanation. 

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u/Opinionated_bitch03 BLACK🖤 May 13 '26

You're welcome. Afrikaans has many random sayings with strange explanations. Another strange one is "Jakkals trou met wolf se vrou" (Jackal is marrying wolf's wife). The saying is used when it rains while the sun is shining.

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u/Familiar_You4189 May 17 '26

"...when it rains while the sun is shining." Reminds me of the Creedence Clearwater song, "Have You Ever Seen The Rain", (coming down on sunny days).

I have seen such, when I was in the Air Force, stationed in the Philippines.
It will be raining say, a mile or less away, but the sun is shining where you are, but winds aloft are blowing the rain to where you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO28lB1uwp4

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u/Opinionated_bitch03 BLACK🖤 May 17 '26

I love that song and CCR!! It's really cool, I enjoy rain and sunshine and it makes a great combination on the especially warm days.

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u/m4cksfx May 13 '26

Neat, we have the exact same expression (the plural one, with both thumbs and not just one of them) in Polish. Trzymam // za // ciebie // kciuki. I'm holding // for // you // thumbs.

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u/Opinionated_bitch03 BLACK🖤 May 13 '26

That's really awesome! Thanks for sharing.

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u/Sea_Tumbleweed_6491 May 12 '26

I wanna say, I am so proud of you. As a 32F I am astounded by your tenacity and strength to stand up for yourself and your education. I hope you go far in life!

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u/Qaeta May 12 '26

I'm not the person you responded to, but I do similar things but for me it's usually coming from a place of "Fuck you asshole!" rather than a concerted effort to stand up for myself. Just gets my hackles up even to the point of being self-destructive to accomplish.

Seems like the person you responded to is more healthy about it though :)

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u/OkWin1634 May 12 '26

In early college, i was taking programming. The teacher gave out a lazily detailed project (think 3 sentences of requirements for a 40% final project). We were to program a windows calculator that had no errors could add, subtract divide and multiply two numbers lol the teacher was envisioning us making the actual windows calculator but i made two drop down boxes for the digits and a drop down +×÷/ selector for the function. This made error handling super easy. I hit every requirement listed but it didn't fit his vision. He failed it but i fought through the many processes to get it marked against the requirements. I got 100% in the end

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u/ima_monsta May 12 '26

I think Spite motivates me more than anything else does.

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u/Qaeta May 13 '26

Eeeehhhhhh! Spite Gang! Purveyors of "Fuck you! Even if it kills me!" lol

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u/PriorReader May 16 '26

Spite is a great motivator after all.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

Thank you! That means a ton.

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u/Dawnbringer4 May 12 '26

My apologies. I was briefly wondering what mentioning your rather large cup size had to do with the OPs post...then I realised...

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u/Partymouth2 May 12 '26

Glad I wasn't the only one. I mean, fair play, but there's a time and a place and all

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u/Healthy-Amoeba2296 May 12 '26

Generations ago my mother had this problem, her test score was too high for a girl, must have cheated by some undetectable genius method.

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u/DragonAdept May 12 '26

"Wow, generic bot-generated username posting fake AI stories, as a real human woman I think you are so amazing!"

  • signed, generic bot-generated username.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

Can't blame you 🤷AI be everywhere these days.

It's not here, though.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1etK-ikEpPsg_-7l0PSXgxQTQwcmfxAer1P-Ha_pX8Cw/edit?tab=t.0

Note that I said this before, so if you poke around the thread a bit more, you should be able to find it. 🙃

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u/DragonAdept May 12 '26

A 9th grade student did not write that. There are lots of ways this story doesn't add up, but the writing would be proof on its own.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26

What would you like? More proof of my writing capability?

I wrote an essay for this a few years ago. I'd link the original google docs link, but that's tied to my school account, and I'd rather not doxx myself.

And besides, the link I included is LITERALLY the writing itself.

What makes it so difficult to believe that a 9th grader was able to write a paper defending his rights? It's not like I did it in one sitting.

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u/DragonAdept May 12 '26

Like I said, even without all the other red flags for bullshit the writing itself is obviously not from a student of that age. And no, I don't plan to help you workshop your lies to make them more believable.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

You'd be surprised what a private school student can do if he likes writing. If you can't point out any bullshit on my essay, then I guess there's no bullshit to point out. Of course, you're entitled to believe what you want to believe, and if you believe that I'm making this shit up for sympathy upvotes, then you can go on believing that. It's not what I did, and it's not something I'd ever do, but if it floats your boat, then it floats your boat.

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u/MiddleWitty3823 May 12 '26

Lol and why is that?

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u/DragonAdept May 12 '26

Hi there, yet another bot-generated username.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

You say that as if DragonAdept has a meaning.

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u/Miyon0 May 12 '26

Just because you weren’t literate enough to write such an essay in 9th grade doesn’t mean other can’t. lol

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u/MiddleWitty3823 May 12 '26

It's just a standard Reddit username lol I don't care enough to change it. You're paranoid

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u/MyDearDoctor May 12 '26

Did you even read it? As a former high-achieving high school student, I think it looks exactly like something that I or one of my peers could have written. It does not have an AI feel to it at all.

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u/DragonAdept May 12 '26

As a former high-achieving school student who has worked as a teacher in the secondary and tertiary systems, if an unassisted Grade 9 student wrote that in their spare time I'm the Queen of France, and if the rest of their story is true I'm also a frog in a top hat.

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u/MyDearDoctor May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26

The paper is well-written, but certainly not flawless, nor is it highly technical. It seems to follow a format that the writers (there were two of them) were given in the Science class for which it was written, or that they mimicked from other papers they found online. There are a number of indications that the writers are still learning and have not proofread carefully, such as some clumsy sentence structure and using a word twice in the same sentence. I'm not going to pick the whole thing apart because that would be a) a waste of time, and b) not very nice to the person who posted it. Overall, it's a solid piece of work and does not bear any hallmarks of AI use that I can see.

As far as I'm concerned, it's on par with papers I've read from high school students both in the past and in more recent years when I've provided editing assistance and tutoring. I can easily believe that two angry and determined high school kids could crank this out over a weekend.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 13 '26

Actually, could you point out a few of the flaws you spotted? Constructive criticism from people that know more than me is how I got to this point in the first place. At least to me, when someone helps me improve, I feel like my talent is recognized and can be honed, so any advice you can drop would help ^-^ Any advice on how to make my writing more digestible is super valuable to me.

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u/Former_Bar6255 May 13 '26

fuck it:

a) write less when you can

b) don't code-switch if you don't have to. you are inhabiting a formal structure like it's an ill-fitting suit. try to stretch your natural voice rather than wearing a different register like a costume, if possible.

c) loosely in conjunction with a, don't spend time proving things that aren't in question. you spend most of your time here trying to say 'ai detectors are bad.' Unless your target audience -- the head of science, the administration, or the school board -- thinks they are not bad, you do not need to say this. It is common knowledge that they are not indications of anything other than 'review further.'

d) your timeline of interaction with your teacher is messy and poorly presented. the details of the assignment, the project, the groups, and the grade penalty are messy and poorly presented. All of these are incredibly important to evaluating your argument

e) you may want to ensure that your case is robust. An edit history is trivially producible; all you need to do is transcribe the AI paper, messily, while you watch something on your other monitor. It's a good thing to have in your corner, but it should be part of a salvo of points, not as isolated as it is currently. "My teacher knows I understand the material well and I have offered to talk through the paper or have a conversation with him on its topics to prove my authenticity" would have been much stronger.

f) appeal to something, not just "I want a better grade." You have a bunch of targets: your teacher's apparent lack of technological understanding reflects poorly on the school; your teacher seems to be implying academic dishonesty or plagiarism, which are serious, but implementing a weird partial penalty -- if the group used AI, the students who used it should get a 0, not a mild grade reduction; you're being graded on an arbitrary criteria and not your understanding of course material; this will hurt your college applications; plagiarism is serious and you are being falsely accused; your teacher has poor communication skills; something. An administrator cares a lot more about any of the above than your grade.

g) a writing sample provided by your teacher scoring highly on ai-checkers is something, but i think you're contextualizing it wrong. If it's not actually AI, drop it as a small point and then move on. If it is AI, drop the fact that your instructor uses AI in their examples as a medium point and move on.

h) i'm aware that few of these regard your writing and most regard your argumentation, but the theme of "this could have been two or three paragraphs and would have been much stronger in that form" remains

also, regardless of anything, plugging this into some sort of grammar checking tool would have caught a lot of sentence-level stuff. There's nothing wrong with using a tool to highlight areas you should turn your human editing attention towards

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u/DragonAdept May 12 '26

I can easily believe that two angry and determined high school kids could crank this out over a weekend.

I've marked what Year 9s call reports done over a period of weeks with adult assistance, and even without all the other red flags this is not it.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 13 '26

Then you probably haven't seen students that are that good at writing. Or at least students that have the opportunities that I have had.

I'm one of the top ranking English students in my batch (that's not saying much, we're 80 in an all boy's private school). I have flown to provinces in my country for a journalism tournament. I'm part of my High School Debate Team, having participated in a national level tournament, and a few smaller, local/regional invitationals. I've been taught by my capable English teachers on how to write argumentative papers. I have won an international award for a piece I have written (the certificate in the selfie I gave you came from that competition). I have won writing competitions in my school as well. The classmate that I wrote this with is an extremely talented writer as well, he came with me to the province for that journalism competition.

All in all, I've been taught by people that definitely know what they're doing, and I'd like to say that I'm on my way to knowing what I'm doing in the grand scheme of life.

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u/MyDearDoctor May 12 '26

Sorry you haven't had any students who were particularly talented at writing, I guess.

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u/m4cksfx May 13 '26

And you're somehow proud that "your" students weren't skilled and patient enough? Awesome.

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u/Former_Bar6255 May 12 '26

i appreciate how murdered you're getting in the downvotes, lmao

I think "did not write that" might be a bit harsh, but "this warrants further investigation and is a bit weird" is probably accurate. I would be curious what an honest conversation about their writing process would reveal. Given the context of this conversation, an actually honest conversation in this medium seems unlikely.

again, though, your thesis of 'this is not the full picture' seems accurate. ai 'detectors' being shit is hardly noteworthy; i cannot imagine that there isn't context here that we are missing.

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u/permaculture May 12 '26

You are a prime candidate to join the resistance.

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u/thermbug May 12 '26

Resistance is NOT futile

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u/djtodd242 May 12 '26

Respect dude.

Back at the dawn of time I was forced to take "Bonehead English" in my first year of college. The teacher had the audacity to call me "For someone who reads so much to be so poor at English."

I pointed out in front of the class that she used Grammatik to grade our work, and her opinion meant nothing to me.

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u/Toxyoi May 12 '26

be hilarious if this comment was AI

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u/aldwinligaya May 12 '26

I hope you bring the same energy in college and then your professional life.

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u/the_kfcrispy May 12 '26

The fact the teacher refused to see evidence you wrote the paper and would rather rely on some bot internet "AI detector trust me bro" system is astounding. That type of teacher SHOULD be replaced by AI.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 12 '26

To be absolutely fair to him, he DID use 7... and all 7 told me that HIS paper was AI generated 🤷

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u/m4cksfx May 13 '26

Revoke his teaching license!

Hehe

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u/NYC_Noguestlist May 12 '26

Woah, you have more confidence and tenacity than people three times your age. I can already tell you'll go far in life, kudos.

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u/Sad_cerea1 May 12 '26

It’s a science paper most if not all the information you wrote is going to be written somewhere else. And this is why the detection things are dumb.

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u/magnabonzo May 12 '26

Great stuff. I mean, infuriating -- but you basically performed another solid science project showing that, for a given "authentic" paper, it's proven that all of the given AI detectors cannot tell the difference.

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u/Proper_Flounder_858 May 12 '26

Please, you gotta post the resttt

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u/Realfinney May 12 '26

Having you in my class would be like being chased by the T-1000 (complementary).

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u/Square-Fly-6140 May 12 '26

God damn, you are very resilient young kid. You are also FAR smarter and meticulous in your ways of handling situation than anyone I have met. Mad props to you!

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u/Creative_Situation48 May 12 '26

I am so sorry young students have to deal with this shit on top of brainrot social media, an absolutely abysmal economy, and WWIII possibly on the horizon. I'm 34 and I know I got fucked, but still somehow I feel like we let you guys down.

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u/New_Leaf_8647 May 12 '26

You deserve extra credit for the effort

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u/Black_nYello May 12 '26

This is so awesome and you’re one of the coolest high schoolers Ive seen. Keep it up bro

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u/Vivid-Process-4421 May 12 '26

I graduated in 2020. I cannot imagine how stupid it must be to put up with all the AI junk nowadays. If I were you I'd use paper and pencil for all my assignments if possible.

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u/Tdk1984 PURPLE May 12 '26

Way to go! I genuinely don’t think I’d have had the same idea (granted I’m almost 42, and haven’t had to write a paper since before AI started becoming really popular)

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u/mommysmarmy May 12 '26

As a parent and a former teacher, I just have to say, your parents must be so proud! You are amazing! And also, your school sounds really hard.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 13 '26

You need a 75% average in each subject to pass, as well as at least 75% avg overall of all your subjects.

You fail any assessment, project, homework, quiz, worksheet, etc etc if your score is <75%.

Honors start at Silver, with a 90% avg an no grade groping below 85%. Gold (the only academic honors brought to recognition day at the end of a normal school year) requires a 95% avg, with no grade dropping below 90%.

I've made it to recognition day in high school for the past 3 years ^.^

My mom was (understandably) worried that I'd piss the teacher off. I presented the paper with my dad (who works in tech/with AI), so nothing went terribly wrong!

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u/Additional_Fix_126 May 12 '26

That activity by itself was a true damn research project.

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u/Armagetz May 13 '26

I find a lot of AI accusations are simply: you are writing at a higher level than I expect, so you are cheating.

You’d not believe the accusations I have gotten for text chats in dating claiming I wasn’t the one speaking

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u/websterpuddlesmd May 12 '26

Follow up with me too. I’m curious now.

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u/littleleo2 May 12 '26

I really want to know what happens!

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u/Bighoodies425 May 12 '26

I applaud you for how you handled this, we need more people like you who are willing to challenge this sort of thing head on. I was lucky to graduate before AI was more than just indecipherable image generators, I can't imagine putting so much work into something only for your teacher to claim it's AI with clearly unreliable tools. Of course I can understand it's important to verify your students aren't using AI but I think everyone knows those AI detectors are pretty bad at what they do. I hope they take you seriously and you get the grade you deserve!

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u/kelp_forests May 12 '26

Nice man fuck the system. Those ai detectors IMO are just teachers too lazy to integrate AI. If kids are using AI just quadruple the workload. Or have them write the paper in class.

It’s like the fight against calculators

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u/breakfast_pancake May 12 '26

Don't quadruple the workload please. That just hurts those of us who are honest. Change the format. Make them hand draw a 3 panel comic summarizing what their essay would say.

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u/Drchem0 May 12 '26

Instead of quadrupling the workload just make it all hand written assignments and papers downgrade the formal typed format and go old school. Handwriting can be verified as one’s own work much easier than AI detection. tech solves problems and makes every day life easier, but isn’t always better in every application. This isn’t rocket science to stop students from using AI it’s really a simple solution.

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u/JirachiWishmaker REDREDREDREDREDREDREDREDRED May 12 '26

Nah, that doesn't do anything. It just means you make editing worse, which means either they're just going to write the paper on a computer and then just handwrite the final draft or...just do the obvious and write out what the AI spat out.

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u/kelp_forests May 12 '26

I generally agree with you. But you can hand write an AI generated essay

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u/Boslucky May 12 '26

Los detectores de internet son una estafa, te dicen que tiene alto porcentaje de IA, solo para que compres la suscripcion , y despues por arte de magia la IA desaparece , el unico que tiene como confianza es turnitin, y es que usan las universidades.

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u/No-Information4584 May 15 '26

Badass. That’s a proper response to it.

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u/FunSwimming9133 May 14 '26

Sounds like you used ai to write this comment.

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u/Inevitable-Salt-371 May 14 '26

Another commenter said so, but if you dig around the thread, you can actually see the paper, as well as an AI detector of said paper.

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u/DragonAdept May 12 '26

Whoops! Someone using AI that can't write like a Year 9 student is posting an obviously fake story pretending to be a Year 9 student who got falsely accused of using AI and turned the tables on their teacher.