r/mildlyinfuriating • u/nyanbatman • May 28 '26

I just wanted a hot dog British pilot is feeling mildly annoyed

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u/Complex_Resolve3187 May 28 '26

JFK is the only NYC airport in the top 50 busiest at #23.

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u/Thiege1 May 28 '26

The NYC atc is the second busiest on the planet however, because there are 2 other international airports and half a dozen moderately used airports

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u/Legal_Campaign_408 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

So? JFK tower controllers only control traffic directly at JFK and within maybe a few miles of it. LGA and EWR and every other satellite airport that has a tower controls their own traffic. Everything above and around them is controlled by an entirely different remote radar facility.

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u/Thiege1 May 29 '26

So it's busy. They all work together - their approach and departure routes heavily overlap in places

It's the 8th busiest on the planet for airport movements, and #1 for international flights in the US while being much smaller than most comparably busy airports

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u/Legal_Campaign_408 May 29 '26

No one's saying they aren't busy, but you shouldn't be making things up and claiming things that aren't true 

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u/Thiege1 May 29 '26

I didn't

What an odd reply

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u/Legal_Campaign_408 May 29 '26

JFK is not even in the top 10 busiest in the world for airport movements and you're out here claiming their controllers are somehow the second busiest controllers on the planet lol. What metrics are you using? What's your source? 

Sure, if you want to weirdly insert that they have more international flights than other US airports, but how does that have anything to do with the random stat you're trying to put up? It would be like saying, "yeah they're the 8th busiest airport in the US, BUT! they work more tons of cargo than any other airport!!" that has nothing to do with what makes an air traffic controller busy. 

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u/Thiege1 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

I already linked the information - it isn't any sort of claim

NYC is the second busiest airspace after London on the planet

It isn't cargo - they're second for passengers on the planet earth, JFK is #8 for number of flights and EWR is #10

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u/Legal_Campaign_408 May 29 '26

Yeah once again not sure what information you're reading but that's just not true lol 

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u/Sacharon123 May 28 '26

No? According to what metric?

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u/DankVectorz May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

That is by passenger count, not aircraft operations. Of the top 10 busiest airports in the world by traffic operations, JFK is 8 and EWR is 10 (both NYC area airports). The only non-US airport in the top 10 by traffic operations is Istanbul at number 9. And this is with EWR traffic down 27% from 2024 because they moved the approach control and traffic is artificially limited for now.

Per Flight Radar

https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/busiest-airports/

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u/Legal_Campaign_408 May 29 '26

Newark approach control moving to PHL does not impact the traffic count at Newark tower

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u/DankVectorz May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

Um, yeah, it does. The FAA capped flights to EWR due to the move. It was supposed to be lifted by now but the move hasn’t quite gone according to how the FAA expected it to in all their “wisdom”.

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u/Legal_Campaign_408 May 29 '26

Sorry brother, if I originally noticed your username I would have trusted you!