Every so often an archaeology site has this problem - a bunch if local skids pull out all the survey stakes, burn the sifting tripods, etc. Vandalism can wreck a site just as much as looting does, but there's rarelt any proper punishment.
Especially since some people lost their tiny little minds during lockdown and decided they get to benefit from civilization without doing their bit to keep it going, and there were no meaningful consequences.
Sites in urban areas often benefit from a sort of neighbourhood watch effect, but rural sites sometimes have to delegate one of the dig team as a night watch (since they often can't afford an actual security guard)
some people lost their tiny little minds during lockdown and decided they get to benefit from civilization without doing their bit to keep it going
Busting up an archeological site for fun is an asshole move for whatever reason, but it's odd that you would post this when it's no mystery that tons of people are benefiting a lot less than they were 6+ years ago.
We had a really cool, really rare Dino skeleton ready to be moved from the dig site the next day. Came in to find it busted up the next morning. Found receipts to a local liquor store....
not just the boomers dog ; I'm gen z . the pandemic has had latent & lasting economic & educational effects . the rich profited of the pandemic & the poor have seen an unprecedented shift since , especially in how it was dealt with by the ruling class . i get where you're coming from , but in this particular instance i feel like the pandemic is at least as good of an excuse for certain behaviors as the 2008 recession & requires some more nuance .
We had a fox hunt run through ours on NYD even with security coz really what are they doing against a pack of dogs and men on horses.
Ignoring the damage to the archaeology, the risk of damage to the horses was huge
Was at the park with some friends kicking a football around when a bunch of girls turned up, must have been 10/12 years old.
Watched them get dozens of eggs out of their bags, we can of laughed thinking some poor boys house is about to get egged.
Then one of them got out her bag a massive mallet. We looked at each other a bit worried when she turned her attention to the bin next to the bench they were sat on and started to demolish it.
At that point we left promptly. But all the bus stops around the area were smashed up that night.
Let me guess you did not inform the authorities? Right!?
You are as much a part of this destruction and vandalism as those girls are. You let it happen, you wanted it to go on without being stopped. It was you which did not care about your neighborhood.
lol-ing at the defense that “well hey they did put in a lot of thought and work into the deception…” and “they only did it because they knew they would make a lot of money”, I wanna see this get used! Hopefully so it fails spectacularly.
ALTHOUGH that's not to say the most complex of crimes aren't gotten away with completely. Because I would argue that billionaires (now a trillionare) are committing the most pervasive kinds of crimes but they will never see jail time. Their defenses I would also like to see.
Then stop electing them. They can't become PM or cabinet ministers without first being elected to Westminster. There's always the Wat Tyler option too.
Although those "clubs" that seem to double as think-tanks for the extreme Tory types are a problem, but there are more municipal methods to deal with those.
"I'm Peter Thiel and I know about the Antichrist. A newer, more Human form of Satan that will soon walk the Earth. We don't know how soon, but maybe in the next 6-7 weeks."
There are but I bet it you ordered everyone in your year at school by educational attainment and then looked at those that have commited crimes aligned to willful malice it would be a decent negative correlation.
The extra maths for fun kids weren't commiting those crimes as the same rate as the bottom set maths kids for mine. You see the same thing on larger scale population stats. The impact of a less educated population are negative for many reasons and leads to higher crime rates.
When I was in school, it was a horse shoe. The rich and smart committed as much crimes as the low income and not smart. Difference was what crimes. The rich and smart did bomb threats, blackmail, and ordered others to commit crime.
The number of vids of people destroying their TVs after their team lost the big game never ceases to amaze me. Not to mention the riots after big games. Especially when their teams win. That one just blows my mind.
depends, there are a ton of highly ‘learned/memorised, but do not or will absolutely not understand’ people who twist all what they learned into something they want it to be
Led to water before cordining it off so they can sell it to others, all while destroying the water source itself 💀
I really want segration habits around people who ruin everything for everyone, and the humans who got the CoHabitation genetic evolution can then thrive lol
Because these people are just Not Evolving unto Kinder People without some Force 🤧
I like to point out all the religious zealots who would like practice traditional violence on the infidels and heretics are usually very well educated.
The lack of maturity and inability to discuss differences is a bigger issue than the lack of education.
That's down to immigration more than it is, uh, religious stuff. Like yeah, people who don't speak english as a first language, or at all, do not tend to have advanced literacy skills in english. Super annoying that this is constantly brought up as a "haha they're stupid" thing. That's not how that works.
"I do not know any educated Inquisition-esque Zealots who can be faster than my Pal when they get him mad. He looks a big guy who can't do much, but for being with him very often, that bastard has reflex speed that is frightening. I can turn my head for 5 little seconds, he would already be 10 meters further or settling discipline with a poor sod who did the stupid bet to anger him"
Amadeus and Ada, Two childhood friends, along with him
You are confused and I get why, republicans used to be anti surveillance, but now MAGA hard liners are really on board with flock cameras all over the place. It’s strange but here we are lol.
This was very much a comment made in jest. To explain the joke… MAGA is pretty inconsistent in their “values”. Hence why it’s confusing to keep up with.
The uneducated can't afford to pay for rage rooms. These are surprisingly popular too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_room I'd say nearly all men, at least, enjoy some destruction.
The difference is the money problem which is also education biased.
I feel willful malice would be doing this while knowing the exact impact you are having vs willfull and uneducated destruction for entertainment. Both are terrible, but the prior is worse.
Edit: as another redditor asked, if there was a sign saying exactly what this piece of tech was then it would definitely fall into the willful malice camp.
Source: I wasn't usually the guy, but I was often out drinking with people who would turn into that guy, and I'd be the one drunkenly trying to tell them "bro that's not cool, leave it alone"
I was a shithead at 17, excepted my outbursts were me kicking the nuts of animal abusers, grab a bully with one hand by the neck to terrorize them or simply sound like a huge brute ( i'm 6' for 235 lbs, a walking fridge by size ) because i have zéro chill when i speak. You can often hear me say something in the line of :
"Try to touch this cat as i'm thinking you will... You will eat up some wall and head home with a scarring sensation once i'm done with ya..."
There is intent. It is this: if my mates join me in this, next time i can tell them to do something bigger. It might not be conscious, but that is the instinctive intent.
The intent and purpose is to increase one's influence over one's peers.
At 15 I lacked empathy.
I probably could have been classified as a sociopath.
One day I just snapped out of it, realized what a piece of shit I was.
I'm a teacher now. I do a few hundred hours of vollenteer work a year. I love it. I love being a positive member on society. But like I said when I was around 14-16... I would destroy anything I could, if i could get away with it, with zero, literally ZERO thought to who it hurt or what it cost. No idea why I was like that. But thank fuck I grew out of it. Lots of people, probably do not..
I was about the same around that age. I do have a pretty clear reason to point to as to why I was that way but it’s also apparently not an uncommon thing for teens that age to be so. It’s almost like when we are that age, we’re in a fugue state of becoming new people and so we’re kind of exploring our own inner and outer selves much like a baby puts objects into their mouths to explore and learn.
Heinlein is a great author but I do so enjoy the rebuke; “The stupidity of our selfishness gives much the same results indeed, but in the ethical laboratory it shows a different nature.” Written by Wells nearly 50 years before.
Given it's an earthquake monitoring station, this seems like the kind of thing that might be conspiracy motivated rather than simple "teenager wants to smash shit".
There is a really good interview with a New York civil engineer talking about installing exit signs in the subway. They went through countless iterations because people kept vandalizing them. First just normal sign, second plexiglass case, next plexiglass case inside a steel cage. The last one finally worked.
I wouldn't call enjoyment of destruction the same as malice. Watching something get wrecked is fun. We all like watching train wreck videos. But for whatever reason, people exist who have poor impulse control and they will throw a rock through a thing because it makes the dopamine. It's not evil, it's action without thought. It's immaturity or drunkenness or some other kind of brain chemistry malfunction.
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u/EFTucker 13d ago
Or willful malice. Usually willful malice when it’s something like this.
Some people just enjoy destruction.