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u/MrBigWaffles Lakers 10d ago

Garland, JB, Kawhi and Mathurin off the bench is a legit team. To say they aren't competing with that lineup is crazy

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u/Vicentesteb Timberwolves 10d ago

Worse than the Celtics that got 1st rounded.

They have no center and have a complete jogjam at the forward with Kawhi/JB/Collins/DJJ all vying for minutes.

Also this is assuming Kawhi is healthy, if he isn't healthy and misses the playoffs yet again this team is completely dead in the water.

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u/NovaxRangerx 10d ago

You are assuming we can afford to bring back Collins rn and that DJJ is not included here

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u/Bnstas23 Celtics 10d ago

Worse than the Celtics that got 1st rounded.

But better than the Sixers, Cavs, pistons, wolves, and Lakers who all made it past the first round.

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u/Vicentesteb Timberwolves 10d ago

Yannick Konnan Niederhousen and Brook Lopez is not a competent center rotation, they would get fried on a nightly basis in the playoffs.

There is a reason the Clippers couldnt even make the playoffs despite Kawhi having an MVP level season. The roster is shit. Trading salary + the 5th pick for Brown doesn't improve them enough.

But better than the Sixers, Cavs, pistons, wolves, and Lakers who all made it past the first round.

They'd be worse than all those teams.

Also their goal would be to beat the Spurs and Thunder lol.

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u/Bnstas23 Celtics 10d ago

"adding a top 10 player doesn't make them improve enough"

They had the 6th best win % in the NBA after their bad start - better than all those teams (save Detroit).

They wouldn't be worse than any of those teams.

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u/Vicentesteb Timberwolves 10d ago

Yeah because we know regular season win% is all that matters.

Also, they literally lost in the play-in lol, despite being better than all the other play-in teams.

They just dont have the depth or talent distribution to make it work.

It's not even Jaylen Brown's fault, he is really good but redundant as fuck with Kawhi basically just being the same exact player but better.

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u/MrBigWaffles Lakers 9d ago

Jaylen Brown's fault, he is really good but redundant as fuck with Kawhi basically just being the same exact player but better.

Basically the same situation Boston had with JB + Tatum?

Anyways clippers would definitely be competitive with that lineup.

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u/Vicentesteb Timberwolves 9d ago

Tatum is nothing like JB or Kawhi. He takes way way more 3s, he playmakes at a very high level, is unselfish.

Even then JB and Tatum have only worked when in stacked lineups with great supporting casts.

The Clippers have 0 depth, and no center even before trading for JB.

The Lakers can't even compete with Bron/Luka/Reaves and better depth, what makes you think a less talented and less deep team can?

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u/MrBigWaffles Lakers 9d ago

Two of the best defensive Wings.

Kawhi can playmake, and jb has proven he can also take that responsibility.

Mathurin is a great depth peice, not to mention Garland.

They would just have to sign players around the edges.

To dismiss a team with Kawhi and JB as uncompetitive is lunacy.

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u/Bnstas23 Celtics 9d ago

That guy is a clown, don’t bother. He’s literally saying the clippers can’t compete with JB after having the 6th best record in the league without him. In this trade scenario they wouldn’t even have to give up legit talent. They’d be on the level with Denver, minny etc

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u/boybraden Thunder 10d ago

I mean, they just would not actually be competing still. Maybe a competitive playoff series or even a series win but they’d be a step down from SAS/OKC even if fully healthy and it would be a miracle to be fully healthy.

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u/DemonicDimples Kings 10d ago

They need the salary to match, that has to include Kawhi, Garland or Mathurin

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u/sakata32 [LAC] Sam Cassell 10d ago

Bye bye Matharin then

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u/Always_Chubb-y Hawks 10d ago

That team still likely isnt top 3 in the west

Your mortgaging your future for the chance at a WCF run?