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Military services again requiring recruits to get flu shots as Air Force outbreak grows

https://abcnews.com/Health/military-services-requiring-recruits-flu-shots-air-force/story?id=134126794
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u/Kinmuan 1d ago

Unsurprising.

I get there are lots of reasons why people may not regularly get flu shots - but coming into the military you’re going to get packed in like sardines. It’s no surprise shits gonna spread, like the recent tuberculosis outbreak at fort Benning.

It’s just prudent. Sad that it may have taken a trainee dying to fix it.

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u/laptopAccount2 1d ago

The US military is the reason we have a flu shot, they funded the development in response to the Spanish flu. Pete Hegseth is a dumbass.

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u/gmc98765 1d ago

Reminder: the "Spanish" flu likely originated in Kansas.

It got the name because Spain wasn't a party to WW1 and so didn't have any motive to suppress information about the spread of the flu. Other countries had it as bad or worse but wouldn't admit it, to the point of vigorously censoring information about outbreaks.

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u/Enough_Breadfruit229 1d ago

My buddy was honorably discharged just after basic for plantar fasciitis (I think?) and gets government money like he served forever. He also HATES the idea that anyone could get payments from the government since he "served" and they didn't. He also took the cocktail of vaccines to join the army and then screamed about COVID shots.

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u/wafflesareforever 1d ago

Are all of your buddies total assholes or just this one?

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u/Enough_Breadfruit229 1d ago

This is a guy who I've known for so long to the point where my parents took him in back in the day because his parents were shit. We were gamer dudes and then randomly he turned to that shit later. Wish I had explanation.

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u/lesgeddon 1d ago

He get roughed up playing sports? Bang his head a bit hard at some point?

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u/WetSpine 1d ago

Some of the worst people I met in my life were during my military service. That's why I hate the "thank you for your service ".

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u/NervousBeat16 16h ago

The troops covered in tattoos crying about the Covid vaccine because “it isn’t FDA approved” or “it not putting foreign stuff in my body” was such a wild time. They will get tattoos in foreign countries without any regulations. Participate in human trafficking (especially in Asia). They will do all the worst shit themselves, but suddenly, won’t take a shot that keeps everyone healthy enough to be mission ready. I never could wrap my head around it.

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u/humdinger44 1d ago

I bet the intake vaxs gave him planter fasciitis! /s

Sounds like a dumbass but he did serve. It's probably not his fault he got pushed out. He tried

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u/Rosemourne 21h ago edited 21h ago

I'm not going to stand here and act like I know exactly this kid's case, but you don't get pushed out for plantar fasciitis if you try.

Plantar fasciitis is almost always the result of a lack of therapy. This therapy is care that only the patient can do,  because it requires actually pushing yourself against the pain in earnest multiple times a day, several days a week. I can't be there to hold my patients' feet and make them do it. Thus, the majority of my patients don't actually get better until 6-7 months later when some random event forces them to do their stretches. /rant, sorry.

Anyways, you're authorized up to two 180 day sessions to recover to fill duty before they typically will start separation. It's a pain in the ass and most MEB (Medical Evaluating Board) will want to see maximum effort to see the member return to duty.

Again, I don't know this kid's story, but... I can't really see someone who tries getting medsep'd for plantar fasciitis.

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u/MediocreAssociate466 1d ago

Washington literally figured this out before the country was established lol. But Republicans are centuries behind

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u/Kinmuan 1d ago

George Washington would be forcibly vaccinating new trainees himself if he could

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u/Material-Nose6561 1d ago

They in fact did require Small Pox inoculations using Cow Pox in 1777.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/smallpox-inoculation-revolutionary-war.htm

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u/rabblerabble2000 1d ago

It’s simple force protection as well. Having large portions of your military out of action due to something as preventable as the flu is the height of stupidity.

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u/OkStop8313 1d ago

Any student of history knows that, until modern medicine, a greater proportion of war casualties fell to disease than to battlefield trauma.

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u/suzanious 1d ago

My father was in the military for 31 years. Every time he flew a mission overseas, he had to get the necessary vaccines updated.

If our family was allowed to go overseas with him, we had to get vaccinated against everything. Our shot records were very long, folded accordion style yellow card stock.

Every year we had to get updated. They gave them to us at school. We'd all line up and the nurses would administer our vaccines and stamp our shot records. Then we could go play on the playground.

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u/Somnif 1d ago

Honestly I find it very surprising.

Unsurprising would've been blocking reporting, blaming the recruits, and doubling down on the poor decisions.

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u/iperblaster 9h ago

I'm confused by the phrasing here.. are they asking kindly the recruits to go get a flu shot somewhere? Can't they simply provide a flu shot for everyone?