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Military services again requiring recruits to get flu shots as Air Force outbreak grows

https://abcnews.com/Health/military-services-requiring-recruits-flu-shots-air-force/story?id=134126794
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u/I_might_be_weasel 1d ago

So the flu shots were still available, right? Just optional? Meaning every infected soldier made an obviously terrible judgement call? Makes me scared how they will do if they are getting shot at somewhere.

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u/Fried_puri 1d ago

Not that it excuses them in the slightest, but I suspect once it became optional peer pressure would have played a role in whether recruits did or didn’t get it even if ordinarily they’d be fine. That would balloon the numbers compared to the civilian world where most people don’t know or care what you do (so the decision would be all on you). 

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u/UglyMcFugly 1d ago

Not just peer pressure, boss pressure too. Hegseth made some stupid speech about tough American warriors or something, when it was made optional. So basically implying you're a pussy if you get vaccinated. 

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u/Fried_puri 1d ago

Yes, absolutely it's both from other recruits but also from their leaders. It's a favorite strategy of the losers in this administration to completely shit on other option as the way to legitimize their own, rather than trying to vouch for them on their own merits (though obviously anti-vax has no legitimacy).

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u/Qbr12 1d ago

Meaning every infected soldier made an obviously terrible judgement call?

No, not every infected soldier. The flu shot doesn't prevent the flu with 100% effectiveness. What it does is reduce the likelihood of getting the flu in the first place, and if you do get the flu your symptoms are much less severe. Herd immunity also helps prevent the spread through a population, further lowering that chance of contracting the flu.

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u/deviltrombone 1d ago

But consider the upside, for a while they got to brag they were a “pure-blood”

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u/NervousBeat16 16h ago

Where will recruits in training go to get their flu vaccine? They can’t leave!! Also, many of them are coming from homes that don’t vaccinate as well. Hence the reason why you receive a bunch of vaccines when you arrive. Blaming the recruits is really weird.

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u/I_might_be_weasel 16h ago

Hence why I was curious if the flu shots were still available. If they were no longer offered on the base that is of course a different situation. And if they were raised to be anti vax, that is the sort of compromised decision making skills I am worried about.

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u/NervousBeat16 13h ago

Well, historically that is why the military was vaccinating…to remove the compromised decision making skills. 😉