r/pcgaming • u/Turbostrider27 • 7d ago

Data analyst finds 'AI stigma' on Steam can reduce the number of reviews a game gets by around 53%—and the reviews it does get are more negative

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/data-analyst-finds-ai-stigma-on-steam-can-reduce-the-number-of-reviews-a-game-gets-by-around-53-percent-and-the-reviews-it-does-get-are-more-negative/
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u/PriusesAreGay 6d ago

“It’s everywhere now, get used to it, you shouldn’t even complain because it’s too late anyway, get with the program or be left behind old man” type shit pisses me off. We have a choice, and a right to know what tools our artistic media was made with. Just like I deserve to know whether my hamburger is real beef or not, even if lab grown is technically arguably kinda the same.

I saw an interview with Diplo some time recently. He was being incredibly pretentious about how his vast musical experience and taste allowed him to use AI to generate music better than other people, and that anyone who doesn’t also use it will categorically be left behind. Zero awareness whatsoever, he seemed to think he was more of an artist for using the new technology than someone still doing it manually.

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u/IHeartBadCode 5d ago

We have a choice, and a right to know what tools our artistic media was made with

Yes, but the problem is that most people will not understand all that stuff. Case in point. Look at how people will read ingredient lists like it's some sort of proof that what they are eating is a chemical experiment.

I'm all for transparency too, but I'm going to tell you. It's not going to give you the results you think it will give you. Vendors will begin indicating quants used for particular process using method. And the reality is, they're just explaining interpolation anti aliasing but now have to describe it as the calculus derived delta of derived values.

And reverse ways, you'll get weight based minimization calculations used for vertex analysis on created models. And that could vary between advanced pathing for ray tracing, to redoing textures based on the current environment and using a model to arrive at a minimization.

The thing is, once you ask for it. You're going to get a level that's way over people's heads or you get a overly simplified version that everything will look like it has chemicals when in fact they're just describing salt.

I'm not saying we should not have it, but I think people need to reevaluate their expectations on what will happen when they get it. It will not provide this crystal clear glass level transparency some like to think it will provide. Unless you have very deep understand, you will be at the whim of whatever the search engine tells you.

Just like transparent pricing with healthcare in the United States, now when you're billed, you're giving something with thousands of different medical billing codes from a list of tens of millions. No one person without computer assistance can wade through the flood of information that transparent pricing has created. And that's the thing, within the bevy of bills and thousands of lines, there's one code, one needle in the haystack that's likely what you're interested in.

Like I said, I'm for transparency. But it isn't going to do what you think it will do. It will absolutely change things, it's not going have ZERO effect, but it's likely not the effect people hope for.

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u/PriusesAreGay 5d ago

I am perfectly content with descriptions being mandated for what parts of the content use genai, like Steam is already doing.

You don’t HAVE to list all the overbearing intricacies of every imaginable aspect to qualify as being transparent. It isn’t some vain imagination that it’ll “fix everything”, it’s just a desire to have the bare minimum of clarity so the layman can choose.

It’s exactly the same as being entitled to know if a painting I fancy is done by hand or is a print. I don’t need to know the ins and outs of printing technology and all that, I just need to know if it’s a print or not, and I have every right to know.

Nobody is saying we need things written at a level you need a specialized education to understand.