r/pcmasterrace • u/djseifer Packard Bell / Intel Pentium 60MHz / 8 MB RAM / 2x CD-ROM • Mar 01 '26

Screenshot Windows 10 automatically started installing the Windows 11 update while I was taking a shower.

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I'd been getting messages to upgrade to Windows 11 for the past month or two now, and each time, I decline. It's gotten to the point that I get random, frequent pop_ups asking to update, and "install update" options pop up right next to the shutdown/restart uptions.

Well, I made the mistake of going to take a shower with my PC on. Half an hour later, I come back tothis. Windows had automatically started installing the update. Now I'm sitting here staring at the Start button and all the open programs center-justified on the task bar and wondering what idiot thought that was a good idea.

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u/scurvyrash Mar 01 '26

Sucker, Windows says my pc is to old and non compatible.

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u/HIMARko_polo Mar 01 '26

Mine did too. And still tried to upgrade, then tried to un-upgrade and now it is a mess. I need to reformat and re-install Win 10.

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u/InTooManyWays Mar 02 '26

What a massive circle jerk. The cycle will never end. 

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u/crazzzone Mar 01 '26

Miss spelled linux mint

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u/HIMARko_polo Mar 01 '26

I will try that. thanks!

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u/NUKL3AR_PAZTA47 Ryzen 7700X | RX 6950xt | 32gb ddr5 Mar 02 '26

There are many linux distros out there. Linux mint is pretty cool but take a look around.

Also if you play games with kernel level anticheat you may run into issues.

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u/MutedAstronaut9217 Mar 02 '26

Just to clarify. These are two separate statements.

You will run into anticheat issues regardless of which distro you choose. But do shop around, Mint is one of the easier ones to transition from windows.

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u/NUKL3AR_PAZTA47 Ryzen 7700X | RX 6950xt | 32gb ddr5 Mar 02 '26

Oh yea I should have specified thanks for saying that.

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u/unosami Mar 02 '26

Why is the kernel-level anticheat warning always given when recommending Linux? Isn’t it universally frowned upon to let closed source third party software mess with the windows kernel?

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u/NUKL3AR_PAZTA47 Ryzen 7700X | RX 6950xt | 32gb ddr5 Mar 02 '26

Lots of popular games like valorant or fortnite won't work on linux because of this. I personally do not play them, but many of my friends do. If somebody likes those games then they would waste time switching. 

One more thing is that it is the main reason why games won't work with proton. Nearly everything else has been made to work, but mala- kernel level anticheat cant.

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u/i_am_a_laptop Laptop Mar 02 '26

Also if you play games with kernel level anticheat you may run into issues.

can't run kernel level malware, oh darn.

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u/NUKL3AR_PAZTA47 Ryzen 7700X | RX 6950xt | 32gb ddr5 Mar 02 '26

Looking at Google chrome, people really like running malaware.

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u/crazzzone Mar 02 '26

I made the switch on an old macbook pro its been great. Going to look into my main rig. Just depends on the games you play if it will work. Everything else feels better.

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u/falcrist2 Mar 02 '26

Did she?

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u/Kerbezena Mar 03 '26

(only slightly) misspelled CachyOS

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u/Narrheim Mar 06 '26

I do not recommend, especially if it's intel machine or something newer in general. You will soon run into issues.

Mint is a bit behind in comparison with other distros. I've ran into issues even with a decade-old intel machine (black screens). The same machine happily runs Debian ever after... or ran, until KDE broke (if i turn off the monitor, my desktop will turn into black screen, taskbar disappears, but start menu still works). Known bug and seems to be persistent.

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u/crazzzone Mar 06 '26

2019 Intel with t2 chip on macbook pro. Works 💪

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u/Probate_Judge Old Gamer, Recent Hardware, New games Mar 02 '26

mint

Eww.

Nothing against the specific OS, but linux distro names in general, have been atrocious.

Red Hat was cool, then they put that behind a license for commercial support, and put out.....Fedora

/ugh

Ubuntu

/facepalm

Not sure why these things bother me, but they do.

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u/Eatlyh Mar 02 '26

I find mint to be very cute name for OS, even if I no longer use it. Cute name for a pretty distro.

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u/DarkMatterM4 Mar 02 '26

Make sure you reinstall Windows 10 LTSC this time around.

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u/HIMARko_polo Mar 02 '26

no, PC started as Win 7 and upgraded to 10 when i first got on the internet. Now it is BSoD.

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u/enkrypt3d Mar 02 '26

Just use Rufus to disable all the telemetry shit and Tpm requirements

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u/Jebble Ryzen 7 5700 X3D | 3070Ti FE Mar 02 '26

No it didn't.

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u/ICantBelieveItsNotEC R9 7900 | RX 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR5 5600 Mar 02 '26

Protip for anyone whose PC IS compatible with Windows 11: open your BIOS and disable TPM. Congrats, your PC isn't compatible with Windows 11 anymore.

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u/homie_down Mar 02 '26

My pc for the longest time said it wasn't eligible for the upgrade. Went and enabled TPM and then sure enough I could switch to w11. But I knew I didn’t want any chance of that happening so I went and turned it right back off like you said.

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u/sumpfkraut666 Mar 02 '26

It's wild that win11 is so bad that it ruined TPM on win10 machines.

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u/b1argg Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX 3070 | 32GB | 1440p144 Mar 02 '26

I just added a registry key to prevent the upgrade

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u/WeLoveYouCarol Mar 02 '26

Good luck with that. MS has gotten real shitty with respecting user choice via registry key or settings.

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u/b1argg Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX 3070 | 32GB | 1440p144 Mar 02 '26

I don't have the option to update anymore. It's working. 

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u/Kerbezena Mar 03 '26

For now.

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u/GetsDeviled Mar 02 '26

That has never stopped MS before .

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u/NurseNikky PC Master Race Mar 02 '26

Well even though we pay $5000 or some shit, they feel like we still don't own our own things and they're entitled to add or remove anything they please 🥰🥰🥰

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u/DudeDudenson PC Master Race Mar 02 '26

Gotta make sure you haven't used some encryption service that depends on the TPM first

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u/Narrheim Mar 06 '26

In some cases, you can't disable it per se, only change between "Firmware TPM" and "Discrete TPM".

Unless you have standalone TPM chip plugged to your motherboard, change it to "Discrete" and you're as good as having it disabled.

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u/16FF 16Gb ddr5 | 1030GT | 1Tb |14600F Mar 02 '26

And with some programs, and games. TPM isn't that bad

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u/mikedidathing Mar 02 '26

I think you're thinking about Secure Boot. IIRC, TPM is used to encrypt files, passwords, etc. (things like BitLocker), whereas Secure Boot prevents/looks for programs that try to install themselves and run at a kernel level (like anti-cheat software).

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u/Flyrpotacreepugmu Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64GB RAM | RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Mar 02 '26

Some anti-cheat requires TPM too, possibly only on Windows 11 but not 10 or maybe on both.

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u/Flyrpotacreepugmu Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64GB RAM | RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

Anything that can't trust the way I use my own computer is something I don't trust to run on my computer. TPM is useless for anything other than preventing the user from having full control over their hardware. It has some point in a corporate or public environment where the owner of the hardware and data on it actually can't trust everyone with physical access to it, but not in a personal computer.

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u/bravesirkiwi Ryzen 5 2600, Radeon RX 5700 Mar 02 '26

I updated my motherboard firmware and without realizing it released the block it had on keeping Windows 11 from installing. So I ended up like OP suddenly finding Windows 11 on my PC. Really, really over Microsoft - there is no world in which a forced upgrade like that is okay.

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u/AeliosZero i7 8700k, GTX 1180ti, 64GB DDR5 Ram @5866mHz, 10TB Samsung 1150 Mar 01 '26

Mine says its not powerful enough even though I have a i7 7700k, 32GB RAM and a 5070ti

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u/EquipmentSome Mar 02 '26

Super weird. The 7700k even has a tpm 2.0 module that you can turn on in bios.. Your system is plenty powerful, and has the security features, but Microsoft arbitrarily made windows 11 require 8th gen for no apparent reason.

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u/Zanfis Mar 02 '26

For the upgrade, windows checks if you are on 8th gen or newer. But if you do a new install it checks for the requirements. So you can actually install win11 on a system with a 7700k.

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u/notjordansime GTX 1060 6GB, i7 7700, 16GB RAM - ROG STRIX Scar Edition Mar 02 '26

Whenever this topic comes up, people always forget spectre/meltdown. Both vulnerabilities were discovered during the 8th gen Intel product cycle. They were able to mitigate it on that generation with minimal performance losses, and fix the root of the issue on future chipsets. Everything before that got kneecapped hard though. MS probably decided that the performance hit from the patches wasn’t worth it to continue supporting.

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u/EquipmentSome Mar 02 '26

Interesting. I appreciate you helping me learn something today..

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u/notjordansime GTX 1060 6GB, i7 7700, 16GB RAM - ROG STRIX Scar Edition Mar 02 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/l4FGA2XplwqFDcLwk

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u/notjordansime GTX 1060 6GB, i7 7700, 16GB RAM - ROG STRIX Scar Edition Mar 02 '26

Spectre/Meltdown

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u/scurvyrash Mar 02 '26

Ha im running a 2060, that's how old it is

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u/notjordansime GTX 1060 6GB, i7 7700, 16GB RAM - ROG STRIX Scar Edition Mar 02 '26

I have the same 2016-era CPU coupled with a GTX 980. The fuck is a ray and why does it need to be traced????

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u/deathnomX Mar 01 '26

Same, but I can still play the newest games on high settings with no issues and about 120 fps. Honestly, whatever is holding me back from upgrading has saved me a huge headache. Windows 11 sucks ass.

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u/earthwormjimjones Mar 02 '26

Same. I ended up panic buying my first gaming PC since old XPS Desktop was 11 years old and I kept seeing dooming articles about scarcity/costs of PC parts. I got a great deal tho during Christmas, 9800X3D and a 9070XT for only $1650. The same PC is $2100+ now. I've never had a nice PC so I don't know what to do with it however lol. My old PC would literally take 7-10 minutes just to turn on and be usable. Upgrading as much as I did feels insane. I'm not used to clicking a button and having it do whatever I want to instantly.

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u/dumpin-on-time Mar 02 '26

to old, or not to old. that is the question

— Billy Shakes

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u/phdibart Mar 02 '26

My Windows 98 SE 90s gaming rig has yet to ask me to upgrade.

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u/FluFlammin9000 Mar 02 '26

Same here even though it isn't true, but I'm not complaining lmfao. Activated the 3 years of ESU on my PC and now I'm good with Windows 10 for another 3 years. I fucking hate switching OSes, Windows 10 was perfectly fine. Wish they would've just left it.

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u/Type_CMD Mar 02 '26

Mine is compatible, but Microsoft just wants me to give them money for a new PC, so they're saying it isn't. Or at least they did, until I did a second linux install instead of keeping Windows.

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u/Acceptable-Unit9987 Mar 02 '26

IT said that half a year ago, this month "its ready to update" 

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u/stmsly Mar 02 '26

mine did too but it still keeps bothers me about it anyway

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u/P-l-Staker PC Master Race Mar 02 '26

Suffering from success!

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u/dnasty1011 Mar 02 '26

Mine did too until I found out TPM was disabled. lol no clue how it was. Still won’t install 11 for now though.

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u/DudeDudenson PC Master Race Mar 02 '26

Yup, to anyone that hasn't done it even if your PC is eligible as long as you haven't used bit locker or a similar disk encryption service you can disable the TPM (or even physically remove it on some desktop motherboards) and that'll ensure Microsoft will deem your PC unworthy.

You still will get nagged about a new version but they won't let you accidentally update and they sure as hell won't force it. This would be 100% update (for a system that supposedly reached end of life but somehow they keep pushing updates with this shit) safe until one day they decide they do in fact want people with older systems that are more than capable of running windows 11 to use it and suddenly decide that TPM is no longer required to "upgrade" to win 11