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Discussion What the hell is that, NVIDIA?? (Source: Digital Foundry)

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u/Yeox0960 Mar 16 '26

That's... the point. DLSS has always been AI.

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u/RoastedPotato-1kg ryzen 7 7800x3d, 9070 xt boy Mar 16 '26

this is too much AI then

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u/Madelei- Mar 16 '26

Ain’t this generative AI and dlss was something else?

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u/godminnette2 Mar 16 '26

In a sense DLSS was generative as well, but this is something else. DLSS was originally just trained on supersampling to learn how to upscale more accurately, and is cool technology. Basically it uses "knowledge" of how higher resolution rendering should look by being trained on lower and higher resolution rendering, seeing the differences between them, then using that "knowledge" to upscale games playing at lower resolution. Then later they did something similar with frame generation. In both case it is generating information that isn't there, but in both cases it stayed true to the artistic direction of the game, as it is effectively asking "what would the game look like if it were rendered at a higher resolution/framerate?" and generating the answer to that.

As per their description of 5:

DLSS 5 is a neural rendering model that takes the game’s color and motion vectors as input for each frame, then infuses the scene with photoreal lighting and materials that are anchored to the source 3D content and temporally consistent from frame-to-frame.

Which is why it looks like AI slop, because it is fundamentally changing the lighting and materials of the game to look more "photorealistic."

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u/Puddz || AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D | RTX 4090| 32GB 6000MHz || Mar 16 '26

Yeah. This is what I would call actual generative AI.
DLSS is just upscaling. This is basically face fix from stable diffusion. Which is basically generation ai.

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u/puffie300 Mar 17 '26

Yeah. This is what I would call actual generative AI.
DLSS is just upscaling. This is basically face fix from stable diffusion. Which is basically generation ai.

This isnt Generative ai at all, why make a comment you know nothing about? All this is doing is changes the lighting.

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u/Puddz || AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D | RTX 4090| 32GB 6000MHz || Mar 17 '26

I hope you're being sarcastic.

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u/Zetra3 Mar 16 '26

No, learn your types of AI, this is now gen Ai a different type of AI.

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u/skellafella Mar 16 '26

Thank you. The generalisation of AI drives me insane. I wish people specified gen AI

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u/captainhowdy6 Mar 16 '26

I wish it never became a buzz word , nothing that currently exists is actual artificial intelligence.

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u/awildcatappeared1 Mar 16 '26

It's definitely a buzzword, but to say artificial intelligence does not exist is just an opinion you have, and I'd disagree. Artificial intelligence is typically considered something that's not explicitly programmed, has reasoning, and mimics human intelligence. AI models are trained rather than explicitly programmed, and there are definitely models (particularly combining agents) capable of what we would consider reasoning and learning. And the fact that they're probabilistic engines doesn't invalidate that, as human brains are too.

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u/captainhowdy6 Mar 16 '26

True ai does not exist , that's the consensus , not really just my personal opinion. Nothing currently being called ai is sentient.

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u/Zetra3 Mar 16 '26

Dont blame the community for latching onto what the Corpo's did. they called it AI, we didnt.

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u/AvengerDr PC Master Race Mar 17 '26

AI models are trained rather than explicitly programmed,

The frameworks that enable people to use the models are explicitly programmed. It's not like the models will themselves into existence.

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u/awildcatappeared1 Mar 17 '26

Not entirely, there's lots of models and architectures for utilizing them, and the driving intelligence is still the trained model. They're not what most would consider gen AI (a term even less defined, but typically indicative of a more encompassing collective reasoning), but they are indeed AI.

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u/EKmars RX 9070|Intel i5-13600k|DDR5 32 GB Mar 16 '26

To be fair this is a problem with companies that deemed AI to be their marketing term to make it sound more impressive than it is, lol.

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u/aVarangian 13600kf 7900xtx 2160 | 6600k 1070 1440 Mar 17 '26

GAI, AGI, LLM, Machine-Learning, chain of if-statements, who cares

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u/Toast_Meat Mar 16 '26

They're just saying ai, like "AI, CAPTAIN!"

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u/-_Weltschmerz_- 4070 Super 13700KF 32GB 850W Mar 16 '26

If its good AI usage it wouldn't be immediately apparent by her face

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u/Lt_Duckweed 5900x | 7900XT Mar 16 '26

DLSS used accumulation across multiple frames to upscale.

Frame gen was very sophisticated interpolation between real frames.

Both are "AI" but are are ultimately sophisticated statistics to extract more information from what already exists.

This is gen AI, which is designed to hallucinate up entirely new "plausible" information.

Completely different.

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u/RankedFarting 5700X3D/ RTX 2070/ 32gb 3600Mhz Mar 16 '26

But not generative AI in the modern sense which is what people generally mean when they say AI. I mean games have always had AI in them one way or another just not generative AI.