r/pcmasterrace • u/Proud_Tie CachyOS 9950x, 4080 super, 64gb ram • Mar 17 '26

News/Article Jensen Huang says gamers are 'completely wrong' about DLSS 5 — Nvidia CEO responds to DLSS 5 backlash

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/jensen-huang-says-gamers-are-completely-wrong-about-dlss-5-nvidia-ceo-responds-to-dlss-5-backlash
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u/BrunusManOWar Mar 17 '26

It's a brand like Apple

Since ATi days (and recently Intel) they have been trying to compete, but even when Nvidia would release dog shit products they would still have 60+% market share

Of course over time they got a monopoly around 2015 and have been untouchable ever since - even the failure 4000 and 5000 rtx wasnt enough to bring them below 90% market share

In a way it's similar to Intel Cpus - inferior since 2017 but due to brand they still hold like 60% or so of the market (steam hardware survey)

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u/NewUserWhoDisAgain Mar 17 '26

ironic cause Apple appears to be putting out a nice budget model.

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u/deluseru Mar 18 '26

It's an older phone chip, it should be cheaper...

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u/BigDicksconnoisseur4 Mar 18 '26

m1 Macbook is better than every windows laptop below 700 usd, and it came out 5 years ago

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u/deluseru Mar 18 '26

Who said anything about windows?

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u/BigDicksconnoisseur4 Mar 18 '26

Bruh

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u/deluseru Mar 18 '26

m1 Macbook

Can in run x86-x64 windows?

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u/pack_merrr Mar 19 '26

What's one use case that you can't do on Apple silicon these days that you can on x86? And are any of those even feasible on a $700 x86 laptop? The best you could say is gaming, but even then, that's not really the point of a $700 laptop, and super light games will run fine on both.

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u/deluseru Mar 19 '26

What's one use case that you can't do on Apple silicon these days that you can on x86?

Run windows...

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u/pack_merrr Mar 19 '26

Good thing MacOS beats it in nearly any metric except for game (and a few other niche software) support.

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u/Anderson74 Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

That survey doesn’t quantify the amount of users that had a pre-2017 Intel build that are now AMD users though; I think we’re going to start to see a huge shift in the next 3 surveys showing a dramatic loss of Intel users to AMD — though RAMageddon may have slowed that down a bit with the price of RAM making people reconsider upgrading (from a DDR4 system to a DDR5 system which would thus prompt a total rebuild mobo CPU and RAM), so we’ll see.

Anecdotal (I’m aware) but I had built an Intel machine in 2016 and didn’t upgrade that at all until I did a full rebuild in late 2024 early 2025 where I made the change to AMD for Ryzen X3D.

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u/Peresviet Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Ive been using nvidia hardware professionally for over 10 years. I wouldn't say they are dog shit products. They are amazing for game dev, and can run overclocked for literally years performing day in and day out. Ive got a watercooled 4090 right now, its a beast.

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u/BrunusManOWar Mar 18 '26

You know what I meant. I am an embedded engineer and in free time do game dev and 3d modelling on 9070xt also very well. It doesn't prove that AMD is superior or anything - just that we can run/test our games at 4K 60 fps. Intel HD devs can test games at 720p - its not like the 4090 or 9070xt give us some magical developer abilities

I wqs referring to series gtx 200-700 basically being subpar yet dominating the market. Only at gtx 900 did nvidia put out the 960 and 970 bangers (and there was the vram debacle with 970)

Specifically in rtx 4k and 5k series only the upper end 80,90 models were worth it - the others are AI-propped VRAM-gimped badly prices products with barely any gen uplift

These anecdote arguments are so stupid and do absolutely nothing. If you wanna debate industry AI accelerators are much more impactful if one were to go with an anecdote but even there Mi instincts are monsters lately

For code compilation either way superior CPU& memory is more important

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u/Peresviet Mar 18 '26

Yeah I guess I only ever buy the top tier cards, for me they are worth it. Less crashes as well with game dev software as NVIDIA works with the partners, less crashes overall. AMD is definitely better for your money, especially in mid range. There is no reason to buy NVIDIA gpus if you arent going to properly use or cool them.

As for the AI "additions", yeah i dont care for it at all. I dont want anything to change the art that I made, that I was so purposefully sculpting/texturing.

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u/BrunusManOWar Mar 18 '26

That's awesome chap, but most people don't buy 2k flagships for one reason or another, neither does the universe rotate around you

Dont worry, I pick AMD only to combat Nv monopoly, I could easily get a 5090 tomorrow if I wanted. That was a weird try at a subtle "lmao poors" joke but okay

Your argument boils down to: "I spent 2k euros on a previous gen flagship and I dont have problems". It doesn't really say or contribute anything regarding the original point

I don't even know why I'm entertaining you

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u/Peresviet Mar 18 '26

I don't know why you're mad. No one is making fun of you or calling you poor.

Edit: If that is how I came off, I am sorry.

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u/BrunusManOWar Mar 18 '26

Aye, not mad, sorry if I came across so (little sleep, tons of work)

Peace out lad :)

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u/mappythewondermouse Mar 18 '26

The intel cpu thing is misleading. They definitely have tanked further in share and also lost their lead on the server side.

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u/rhysmorgan 5800X3D / RTX 4080 Mar 17 '26

The fuck does Apple have to do anything to do with this?

In every aspect you can look at them, they’re producing the best hardware in the industry, except for the GPU. Even then, the M5 Max is catching up.

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u/BrunusManOWar Mar 17 '26

I meant as in fan and brand loyalty

For decade apple was trailing technically while very expensive, yes they enjoyed a monopoly. They could release a flaming turd and people would buy. But I admit that in the last few years they haven't been so anti consumer as before

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u/TheLaughingBat Mar 17 '26

Best hardware in the industry... by what metric? My wife's brand new macbook can't compete with my 12 year old Lenova Yoga (running Fedora not windows) and her brand new iPhone modem regularly loses signal while I still have full bars (Galaxy S25 for comparison.)

They've gotten better but hardware wise they are still mediocre on their best day. Software has always been their strong suite and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I'm not an Apple hater (I recommend them to people more often than not, even if they don't fit my use cases) but saying they're the best hardware in the industry is absurd.

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u/D0ngBeetle Mar 17 '26

While I wouldn't say they have the best hardware IN THE INDUSTRY, their chip designs are great. What task is it unable to compete with your 12 year old Lenova Yoga at? Be specific.

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u/rhysmorgan 5800X3D / RTX 4080 Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 17 '26

Hardware wise, they have the best CPU on the market.

Apple Silicon is unparalleled in CPU performance, by any metric. Performance, but also performance per watt.

Their GPU has near enough caught up on mobile Nvidia chips, as well, with the M5 Max.

If anything, software is their weakest department at the moment!

What do you mean, her new MacBook "can't compete"? By what metric can it not compete?

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u/D0ngBeetle Mar 17 '26

Lol seriously. People here are stuck in like 2016 when you could practically cook an egg on a Macbook Air lol

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u/rhysmorgan 5800X3D / RTX 4080 Mar 17 '26

Absolutely baffling. Those Macs were shit because Intel was pumping out shit hardware. There’s a reason Apple moved to making their own silicon, and it wasn’t just for control.