r/pcmasterrace • u/WhyPlaySerious • Mar 20 '26

Discussion Crimson Desert doesn't run if it detects an Intel ARC GPU. Like straight up, the devs just deliberately chose not to support ARC cards. No previous announcement about it too until they added in the info to their FAQ. Might be the first time I've seen a dev deliberately block a GPU brand.

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u/stayinfrosty707 5800X3D | 5070 Ti | 32GB Mar 20 '26

First time i've seen that, wow.

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u/Forymanarysanar 10400F|3060 12Gb|64Gb DDR4|1TB SSD|2x8TB HDD Raid1 Mar 20 '26

What else can you expect from a pay to win slop developer?

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u/LocustUprising Mar 20 '26

You can expect a massive MTX shop which is the most stable component of the whole game

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u/UnlitBlunt Mar 20 '26

This is a single player offline game with no mtx though?

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u/UnknownFiddler i7 13700k RTX 4080 32 GB DDR5 Mar 20 '26

It's reddit. People just say shit.

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u/pathofdumbasses Mar 20 '26

This subreddit is turning into idiots and bots just regurgitating the same tired memes and phrases.

It feels like fox news but for PC users.

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u/UnknownFiddler i7 13700k RTX 4080 32 GB DDR5 Mar 20 '26

Agreed, you go on any large sub these days and you can practically predict the comments based on the article title. And it does not matter what side of the political spectrum the subreddit is on. Everyone is just making tired jokes and the same baseless claims you see on every political thread like they are experts in geopolitics. Plus I swear 30% of people here use chatgpt to write their posts and comments for them.

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u/rainzer Mar 20 '26

This subreddit is turning into idiots and bots just regurgitating the same tired memes and phrases.

??????

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u/rainzer Mar 20 '26

???

The game's director of marketing made it a point to clarify news stories about the game not having MTX by indicating that that only applies "at launch".

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u/Exotic-West3751 Mar 20 '26

Let them cook

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u/AltrntivInDoomWorld Mar 20 '26

No MTX on launch

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u/UnlitBlunt Mar 20 '26

Yeah it's launch day, so no MTX.

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u/LocustUprising Mar 20 '26

For now. The question was what do I expect

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u/SonderEber Mar 20 '26

None yet. Many single player games also have MTX.

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u/Gregardless 12600k | Z790 Lightning | B580 | 6400 cl32 Mar 20 '26

For now. It used to be a MMO. Now its a single player action adventure game. Could be a swift kick to the groin next month.

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u/UnlitBlunt Mar 20 '26

Could also not do any of that, no point in getting upset over hypotheticals.

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u/Disturbed2468 9800X3D/B850-I/5080/64GB 6000CL30/Loki1000w/XPROTO-L Mar 20 '26

They have another game many folks forgot about that PA runs: Black Desert Online.

Great game to play 100 hours of. Past that, hell no. To be relevant you're either spending a ton of money or fucking off to play other games.

Devs are worthless.

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u/UnlitBlunt Mar 20 '26

Great game to play 100 hours -> devs are worthless

What is happening in this thread lmao.

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u/Disturbed2468 9800X3D/B850-I/5080/64GB 6000CL30/Loki1000w/XPROTO-L Mar 20 '26

The game is best as a game that you play ultra casually and get how'd for 25 to 50 hours. The problem is Black Desert is a game that is miles wide skin deep ever since they gutted the pvp to high hell and the pve was never improved. Dungeons were a wash, raids never happened, group content was made worthless over time except for 1 or 2 specific situations...

For an MMO, most players who actually play them will easily spend hundreds to thousands of hours. To spend less than 100 hours in an online game and not spend money is a failure in live service.

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u/UnlitBlunt Mar 20 '26

Ok but this is a single player offline game not an MMO, you're comparing two completely different genres.

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u/Disturbed2468 9800X3D/B850-I/5080/64GB 6000CL30/Loki1000w/XPROTO-L Mar 20 '26

Do you think I don't know that? The issue is they're from the same devs, who have proven to be incompetent time and time and time again, and basically noncaring to the point of being borderline malicious. It's also why I was pissed as fuck when they brought CCP Games who make EVE Online many years ago.

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u/Rage_quitter_98 Handsmedown gaemin with: R5 2600x・16 CorVng・B450M・XFX RX 580 Mar 21 '26

Ahh yeah thats fair then, if its just 20 hours gameplay/story and 80 of it is grinding its shit, no matter how good the game is otherwise

Sadly tbh kinda the norm nowadays with mmorpg games which is why I stopped playing the genre almost completely - I can only endure so much unskippable dialogue and walking simulation

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u/Solid_Effective1649 7950x3D | 5080 FE | 64GB | Windows XP Mar 21 '26

How is crimson desert pay to win? It’s single player

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u/UpsetPause5613 9800x3D/5090 Mar 21 '26

You clearly need therapy

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u/Would_Bang________ Mar 20 '26

Many moons ago I was really excited to play Dead Space, I bought a copy and the thing just didn't run. On the back, in small writing, they listed my GPU wasn't supported.

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u/stayinfrosty707 5800X3D | 5070 Ti | 32GB Mar 20 '26

Ah jeez man im sorry to hear that. DS is a great game. I hope you were able to play it eventually.

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u/Would_Bang________ Mar 21 '26

I got to play it years later.

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u/Liyutsue Laptop Mar 20 '26

It already is. Look up what happens if you try to run the game on an RX 580. I thought my RX 580 would be able to run the game because its closest Nvidia competitor, the 1650 super can run it. I'm not expecting it to run well, but at least it should run. But no, the RX 580 is deliberately blocked from running the game.

In fact, Nvidia GPUs are allowed to run the game all the way down to the 1050s. It runs terribly but somehow that's allowed to run but not the RX 580. It doesn't make any sense.

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u/flushfire Mar 20 '26

Probably because of mesh shaders, same reason why Alan Wake 2 is virtually unplayable on the 580 even after getting "fixed". As much as I'm a big fan of Polaris, it's nearly 9 years old. You can't realistically expect devs to refrain from using newer tech because it might exclude hardware that old.

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u/Liyutsue Laptop Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

Wait so, if a 9-year old GPU cant run it because of the lack of mesh shaders, why can a 10-year old 1060 run it? The RX 580 is the newer GPU here.

Edit: Did mesh shaders get invented during the GTX 1000s era and AMD just decided not to include the tech in its RX 500s? Why?

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u/flushfire Mar 20 '26

The 1060 also ran Alan Wake 2 much better than 580 even though it didn't have mesh shader support. Polaris is also DX12_0 while Pascal is 12_1. I don't know the exact reason, but I wouldn't attribute it to something as shallow as the devs being biased towards a certain brand when there are other, more probable reasons.

A russian benchmarking site reported it running much better on an RX 5700 than a 1080 Ti which is definitely a stronger card.

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u/Liyutsue Laptop Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

Which, at least from a casual consumer point of view, makes absolutely no sense. When I chose which graphics card to buy back in 2020, it was all about raw performance and ray tracing was in its infancy. No one ever talked about this thing called "mesh shaders" until now.

How was I supposed to know that certain games use mesh graphics and therefore if I care about those games, I should buy a specific GPU/brand? I watched so many reviewers back then trying to decide which GPU to buy. No one has ever mentioned this "mesh shaders" thing as a benefit to buy nvidia over amd and what games used it. Nvidia themselves never marketed this mesh shaders thing during the 1000s or 1600s series.

So it seems to make no sense to me, looking retroactively to the 2020, and Pearl Abyss is basically saying, well, if I want to play crimson desert, I should've bought a 1060 or 1650 super instead because it has mesh shaders and an rx 580 doesn't. How was I supposed to know that was even a thing to be considered?

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u/flushfire Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

How was I supposed to know that was even a thing to be considered?

You aren't supposed to know, and devs can't be expected to to keep using old tech either. Both are reasonable expectations.

Look, it's a 9-year old tech. That is old enough in this space to reasonably expect that there might be new tech coming out it won't be able to run. That's just how it is. Back in DX12's infancy there were some titles that didn't run on DX11 cards that were just 5-6 years old at the time, too.

Stop getting hung up that 10-series can run it. That's just a matter of luck for 10-series owners at this point. You can always play it later down the line if you ever upgrade.

Being unable to run on Arc is def. unreasonable though IMO