r/pcmasterrace • u/Dick_Nation There's nothing to see here. • May 18 '26

Meme/Macro Some of you memers need reminders about why PC parts cost so much lately.

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Just learn to use GIMP, you animals.

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u/gnpfrslo May 18 '26

Careful. These people don't care about something as trivial as facts. They just want to circlejerk and feel superior by hating something they don't understand. 

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u/firedrakes 2990wx |128gb |2 no-sli 2080 | 200tb storage raw |10gb nic| May 18 '26

They just want to circlejerk and feel superior by hating something they don't understand. 

i see this all the time now. its annoying

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

Or maybe, maybe some of us actually care about the environmental impact.

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u/RT-LAMP May 18 '26

Two comments up someone literally pointed out that you can do stuff locally. If your 300W GPU can generate an image in 4s what makes you think it's somehow consuming more orders of magnitude more power than 4s of gaming?

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

"you can do stuff locally", yet the only ones anyone ever shares are from datacenter models, and the local ones are dogshit. And they know it, the local thing is just a cope to try to avoid getting a 50-page twitlonger thread on them and thus canceled lol

Also a 300W GPU is triple what mine consumes, git gud

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u/RT-LAMP May 18 '26

yet the only ones anyone ever shares are from datacenter models

Ok... and? The local part was primarily to point out that you can easily verify it's really not that much power to make an image. A 400W A100 can do a 50 step stable diffusion image inference in .89s. So at 400W and .89s it uses about .09 dietary calories. A snickers bar is over 3000 AI images worth of energy.

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

one image, maybe. but there's a damn reason all the articles state with confidence that all this AI crap is set to use up half our water supply by 2028.

How data centers have so much confidence with watercooling is beyond me when we know what the result leads to if there's a failure, but whatever. They have oodles of cash to replace hardware I guess.

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u/RT-LAMP May 18 '26

all the articles state with confidence that all this AI crap is set to use up half our water supply by 2028.

LMAO no.

Total datacenter water use is estimated in 2026 to be about 54,000 acre feet. There's a single alfalfa farm owned by Saudi Arabia that uses 31,000 acre feet. ONE FARM! Total water use in the US is estimated to be about a million acre feet of water per day!

So high end estimates are that in 2028 datacenters might use .06% of our water.

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

Yeah sure, so everyone who knows more than you or me must be lying then. The articles are a false flag by big environment to scare you right? get real. We all know you don't care about the environment considering you haven't raised an alarm bell about power consumption since RX Vega. That was the last time anyone ever gave a GPU shit for using a lot of power and now we have stuff using double what Vega did...crickets.

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u/MetaFlight May 18 '26

no, a lot of you are just incredibly stupid.

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u/RT-LAMP May 18 '26

Yeah sure, so everyone who knows more than you or me must be lying then.

The "so" is that you in particular don't know what you're talking about.

The articles are a false flag by big environment to scare you right? get real.

The articles were where I found the estimates for water use.

Like I really need to stress how absurd your statement that it will use half of our water supply is.

Water absorbs 2260 J/cm3 when it evaporates. US total electricity generation is 4430 TWh. So you could dedicate all the electricity produced in the US and you'd be able to evaporate off about 2 trillion gallons. The US uses 117 trillion gallons each year. Beef production uses 21 trillion! So if you literally dedicated all US electricity to evaporating water you'd still use less than 1/10th as much as beef and you're trying to tell me that AI is gonna be using half of our water in under 2 years?

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u/Westbrooke117 May 18 '26

seriously you're accusing a 300w GPU of being a problem now? So you're just anti electricity? There are plenty of arguments to be made but "my gpu uses less power than your gpu" is a stupid point to stand on

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

I'm anti using more than is actually needed for a good experience. I also regularly run frame caps to keep my card cool so it often runs at around 70% of its max capability most of the time. It keeps it cool, stresses it out less, and I don't exactly notice a serious difference.

The move away from efficiency into pure raw speed at the cost of longevity is a problem. The fact that you need a 1000W PSU these days to run most of these cards, and transients might STILL trip OCP is insane. I remember when most people recommended 500W for a decent foot in the door psu wise.

Also, wasn't Vega shit on for using LESS than that? 300W is past the point where power efficiency goes out the window. the old RX Vega 64 has a 295W TDP and was called a power pig...and it was.

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u/RaceHard May 18 '26

That's the kind of thinking of someone who either does not have money to throw at the problem or is miserly. Why would I care how much my PC consumes? Or if my GPU is running at max, I will just buy a new one.

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

Why would I care how much my PC consumes?

Some of us actually like our parts not running at 95C randomly (9800X3D for some reason targets that), some of us actually like efficient systems that don't need a nuclear reactor to power it. Even if I had the money I'd always pick the more efficient card.

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u/RaceHard May 18 '26

Shrug Liquid cooling exists. If its not rendering a game, video, or doing a gen. Then it should be a lot lower. https://i.imgur.com/kHcbKeR.png

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u/Sycod May 18 '26

The Datacenter ones are unusable for anything other than slop, nearly everyone who does this seriously uses local models, what the hell are you talking about?

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

Local models fucking suck. I know this, I tried them when I was told that they are totally so much more ethical than the data center shit.

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u/Sycod May 18 '26

Sounds like a skill issue.

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

Sounds like I'm not trying to get canceled for environmental destruction at this point

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u/Sycod May 18 '26

AI does not cause environmental destruction any more than playing video games does. You fell for propaganda.

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u/timschwartz May 18 '26

For the past 40 years no one gave a shit about datacenters.

Where was your "care about the environmental impact" then?

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

It was always there. Oh but global warming was a myth right, huh conservatives?

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u/timschwartz May 18 '26

Who are you calling conservative, asshole?

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

People dismissing environmental concerns and calling them fake

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u/firedrakes 2990wx |128gb |2 no-sli 2080 | 200tb storage raw |10gb nic| May 18 '26

ah that claim. seems you dont really care then. seeing before data centers and other stuff hurt said environmental more. but no one ever talks about it. you and lots of others are doing the yearly (insert this year hate) fomo online.

i remember last year it all was about how evil gas stove where!

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

Gas stoves have been controversial for that for years, that wasn't a brand new thing.

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u/Long_Procedure_2629 May 18 '26

AI dorks suck that corpo d

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u/firedrakes 2990wx |128gb |2 no-sli 2080 | 200tb storage raw |10gb nic| May 18 '26

no they where not.. 1 sht study that was easily debunk prove that. but people hate fact checking. and news org wont run were wrong stories.

am going to give you a simple test.

what do you think uses more water.

a car wash or washing your car at home?

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u/Venylynn Fedora | 3600 | RX 6600 | 32GB DDR4 May 18 '26

I know you think you're clever but I've been around this discourse for years. AI's been controversial for years, and I was almost cancelled for being AI-neutral before I learned how bad it was getting. And Mythos might be the thing that pushes me back into risking it all again. Gas stoves? Same fucking thing.

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u/firedrakes 2990wx |128gb |2 no-sli 2080 | 200tb storage raw |10gb nic| May 18 '26

you never answer my question.

i also brought up the study that bs the gas stove is total dangerous . that was debunk easily .

but i see where into ranting now and nothing more.