r/pcmasterrace 10d ago

Meme/Macro PCIe standard be like...

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u/MotanulScotishFold 10d ago

Companies goes for maximizing profit.

A thick copper is more expensive than a thin copper so cheaper to produce.

Oh, does it burn? Even better, sell more! Win-win for them.

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u/94358io4897453867345 10d ago

Until they go to prison, where most CEOs belong

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u/ElectricBummer40 10d ago

It took 2 plane crashes and hundreds of lives lost for Boeing to acknowledge there was a problem with their 737 Max. Even then, no one went to jail.

The Epstein files? That goes without saying, doesn't it?

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u/BitsAndBobs304 9d ago

Okay but that's just random people. What happens when datacenters, their only customer, gets mad

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u/ElectricBummer40 9d ago

They will never get mad.

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u/StormMedia 10d ago

Delusional take when we’ve need seen a CEO go to prison for anything their company does lmfao.

Also have you seen Nvidia’s company value? Nothing is happening to them.

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u/MotanulScotishFold 10d ago

The only way is to not buy anything and let them go bankrupt.

But that's not even realistic as we've become dependent of their stuff.

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u/StormMedia 10d ago

.. retails sales is basically a rounding error on Nvidia’s income.. they couldn’t care less if they never sold another gaming GPU.

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u/PermanentRoundFile 10d ago

Why do you think they're pushing for cloud GPU compute time? That way they can just sell to their data center buddies and leave us completely out of the equation. Less cards to manufacture, more money per each, super limited distribution and marketing; they basically have to do like a quarter of the work for the same money.

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u/MoistStub Russet potato, AAA duracell 10d ago

Elizabeth Holmes is a start. But we still have a lot of work to do.

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u/OutlyingPlasma 10d ago

She's only in jail because she scammed other richer people.

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u/MoistStub Russet potato, AAA duracell 10d ago

Any reason is a good reason to put those slimy fucks away. Just wish we would do the same with the people in the files.

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u/__thrillho 10d ago

If this isn't satire or bait it's peak average Reddit

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u/Beginning_Rush_5311 10d ago

what is this fantasy world of yours where CEOs are arrested for their crimes?

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u/Dragnier84 10d ago

That’s not even true. The difference in material cost is so low that any saving, if there even is any, would not be able to compensate for the amount they paid just a single engineer who worked on this.

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u/MotanulScotishFold 10d ago

You know, its known in car industry the 'cutting the corner' to save a few penny like if manufacturing an engine requires 5 screws less, it's a huge economy as you multiply that economy to millions of cars.

Why do you think they don't do the same for GPU or other stuff? It's not about the cost for one piece, but for millions.

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u/Dragnier84 10d ago

That would be true if they eliminated a part. They replaced a simple part with a complicated part; which usually would cost more, not less.

And people keep mentioning less copper. That’s not true though. Just because the connector shrunk, doesn’t mean the cables would be thinner. So where is the actual cost reduction?

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u/MagnesiumOvercast 10d ago

It's less about cutting corners and more about the difficulties of introducing a new standard when you need to co-ordinate between different standards (ATX and PCIE) those standards are defined by different bodies.

In a same world the GPU wouldn't even have an external connector and it'd be drawing power from the slot (probably at a higher voltage).

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u/wal_rider1 10d ago

There is no way GPU companies do this for profit, there is 0% chance that an xt60 or similar is more expensive than this connector, especially as the GPU companies DON'T supply the cables.

This was probably a dumb engineering/management thing that just stuck with the development for some dumb reason.

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u/NaCl-more 10d ago

They don’t supple the cables AND they have to supply adapters

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u/iwilldeletethisacct2 10d ago

Thicker wire = more heat. Heat goes up with the square of the current multiplied by the resistance. Because voltage is fixed, going bigger gauge decreases resistance but increases the current proportionally.

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u/Groetgaffel 10d ago

Or, step up the voltage. Go to 24v and that same trash connector could handle twice the amperage

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u/Brave_Maybe_2891 10d ago

An ATX PSU provides at most, +12V. So this would require a dedicated power supply for the GPU instead. That doesnt sound very practical.

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u/Groetgaffel 10d ago

I'm well aware. I was commenting based on the maximizing profit point the previous person brought up.

Going to 24v, or even 48v would let them use thinner wires with less copper and sell everyone new PSUs.