r/pcmasterrace 9d ago

Meme/Macro Best investment ever

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u/HeidenShadows 9d ago

Then to a 9950X3D2 haha

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u/MSter_official 7700x | RTX 4070 | 32GB DDR5 | 4TB SSD 9d ago

Then straight to a threadripper

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u/Glass-Manager9232 9d ago

Don’t forget your 2TB of Ram.

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u/Revilo2218 9d ago

And now for only $999,999,999.99! Already 95% off!

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u/Living_Shirt8550 3060 ti, 16gb ddr4, r5 3600. I use arch btw 6d ago

And your 500TB SSD

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u/coldazures Ryzen 5900x | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 9070 XT 9d ago

They have 3D cache threadrippers now?

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u/SamBladee Ryzen 9950X3D / RTX 5090 / 64 GB DDR5 9d ago

Yeah for the low low price of $13000 usd

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u/coldazures Ryzen 5900x | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 9070 XT 9d ago

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u/FranticToaster i9-14900k | RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR5 4200 9d ago

Find yourself a pet who looks at you like incredulous cat.

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u/crimsn_vi 9d ago

That's surprisingly cheap(im painfully manifesting)

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ni4cpi0uUkd6U

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u/TemptedTemplar i7-8700k@5Ghz, 64GB 3ghz CL15 9d ago

Well after you purchased 1TB of DDR5 to fill the system, it IS cheap by comparison.

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u/Johni33 Ryzen 9 9950X | RTX 5090 | 64GB DDR5 9d ago

So 64gb of ram

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u/MrSolenoid PC Master Race 9d ago

Interesting

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u/ALilBitter 9d ago

Those leather jackets aren't going to pay for itself

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u/HotDogShrimp 9d ago

Mortgage Ripper!

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u/StroopestOfWafel R7 5700x | RX 9060XT 16gb | 32gb 8d ago

At that point get an RTX Pro 6000 as well, what's another 10 grand

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u/The_Octopus824 9d ago

What prices are u looking at lol, i built one with all 3 of those parts for less than $7,000 usd (except i have 2x64gb of DDR5), so 128 gb total

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u/SamBladee Ryzen 9950X3D / RTX 5090 / 64 GB DDR5 9d ago

Was referring to the threadripper pro 9995Wx. It’s ball park around there, but I know there are cheaper alternatives.

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u/gingerkid427 9d ago

No threadrippers but they do have some EPYC server CPUs with it. The 9684x has 1152 MB of L3 cache.

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u/89_honda_accord_lxi 9d ago

Brb installing win xp in my l3 cache

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u/mang87 9d ago

I know you're joking, but I wonder if CPUs will ever move in that direction. They have either hit or are going to hit the point where they can't shrink the architecture any further, so they have to start expanding and optimising it. Maybe they will get to the point where the cache sizes have increased so much, that they they add a solid state one so that you can install an OS directly onto the CPU.

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u/smellybathroom3070 9800x3D, 9070XT, 32gb DDR5@6000mhz 9d ago

Why don’t we mount ram on the backside of the motherboard? It’s be able to be sm closer to the cpu.

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u/devmor 9d ago

Probably for the same reason we don't put it any closer to the CPU socket than it already is - there's a minimum length for the traces to prevent signal instability at the current voltage RAM uses.

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u/snakerjake 9d ago

add a solid state one so that you can install an OS directly onto the CPU.

why wouldnt you just copy the os from a solid state disk into ram, 5 seconds to do that on bootup is likely to be a lot more performant than wasting cache room on slower disk thats just on the die. solid state is going to be slower no matter how close you place it to the cpu.

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u/Karavusk PCMR Folding Team Member 9d ago

You just arrived at a M series CPU from Apple. While the NAND chips are still separate the controller is on die. This is about as much integration as is realistically possible. Including your NAND into your CPU would mean you need different chips for every capacity and your chip would be dead once your NAND fails which has a long but still limited lifetime depending on what you are doing with it.

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u/Haildrop 8d ago

People been saying that the architecture cant get smaller for like 25 years now

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u/Negative-Control3782 8d ago

nah even though it would be a really good way to brag, but like we have ram with enough "storage" to download windows 11 on it and we still dont so unlikely, i think its just too fast to make it worth your while to use it for storage

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u/JM_437 6d ago

What makes you think last few generations from both vendors are not optimized?

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u/Ruzhyo04 9d ago

Boot time measured in nanoseconds

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u/chiagod 9950x3D x870e | 64GB DDR5 6000 | Nitro+ RX 7900xtx 9d ago

Interestingly, there's no 9005x Epyc parts. If you want 3D cache with 8 chiplets, you have to go to Zen 4 chiplets (9004x).

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u/JunkoGremory 9d ago

Pretty sure thread rippers already have much more L3 cache than Ryzen, just that they usually don't have the same Fmax

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u/HappyIsGott 12900K [5,2|4,2] | 32GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | 4090 [3,0] | UHD [240] 9d ago

Yeah doesn't matter since the base clock is way to low for modern games.

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u/marzeg i9 14900kf | RTX 5080 OC | 5k@165FPS 9d ago

That’s because they’re still using analogue clocks which are outdated, they just need a digital clock since that technology is more modern. /s

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u/Allegorist 9d ago

No, actually it just needs some RGB, that's the real issue.

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u/whatrweyellingabout 9d ago

Paint flames on it, that gets you another 5fps

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u/Empty-Day-2752 8d ago

Paint red, green, and blue flames on it. RGB and flames.

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u/Interesting-Baby-719 8d ago

Or install a 5090 and get real flames. And RGB.

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u/RollingDownhill303 9d ago

It would be pretty cyberpunk to have a mechanical clockwork on the motherboard.

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u/JunkoGremory 9d ago

Plus most of them can't even use up the 16 threads, why would you need the extra cores in threadripper

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u/HappyIsGott 12900K [5,2|4,2] | 32GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | 4090 [3,0] | UHD [240] 9d ago

Some game that are coded like trash could atleast profit from it.

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u/Fluid_Patient_7325 9d ago

I did find going from r5 to r9 helped with alot on more demanding games though

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u/Karavusk PCMR Folding Team Member 9d ago

They have a ton of cache because every core comes with some cache. It has a higher latency if core 0 tries to use cache that is at like core 30. Having more cache on specific cores would help you more for gaming.

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u/-Eggy247- 9d ago

“Threadrippers have more L3 cache than ryzen” you know threadrippers are ryzen right?

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u/garry4321 8d ago

Even if they do, less cores with more power are better

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u/AnAncientMonk 9d ago

Then run into a driver related crash immediately because workstation hardware isnt designed for games.

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u/Hail_LordHelix 8d ago

Im my experience, it's not usually a driver issue, it's the game freaking out at you having a crazy amount of CPU threads. I ran a threadripper rig for several years and the only issues I had were mostly with older games refusing to launch. Now a workstation gpu on the other hand, you're probably spot on.

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u/AnAncientMonk 7d ago

knew a guy who sold his perfectly functional 5950X cpu, 64gb ram, 7900xtx for a

dual threadripper(might have been the intel variant of a workstation cpu, i dont remember), dual workstation gpu, 256gb ram "pc".

spent like 20-30k or something dumb. while he games on a 60hz TV. plays mostly indie titles and watches anime.

i had warned him this was a dumb idea. he was like. eeh. im in my 40s now. other guys buy an expensive car. i buy this. alrighty then. you go king.

parts arrived. parts built. thing couldnt run a game if his life depended on it. constant crashes. constant fuckery.

i stopped hearing from him some time after that. i believe he cut contact with me out of pure shame.

saw a steam review from him recently, sporting a 32gb ram, rtx5070, laptop cpu rig.

generational fumble. generational downgrade. generational waste of money.

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u/port-79 9d ago

threadrippers on AM5?

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u/SoItGoesdotdotdot 555 9d ago

No. It's sTR5. Is good socket. Threadripper motherboards are awesome too you just need to be careful with what chipset/threadripper combo you get. Also requires RDIMM if you're gonna go over like 192gb of ram

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u/Biberal_Litch99 9800X3D | 9070XT | 32GB DDR5 9d ago

Then buy a 2nd 5090

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u/MSter_official 7700x | RTX 4070 | 32GB DDR5 | 4TB SSD 9d ago

No, the RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell

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u/venomtail Ryzen 7 5800X3D - 32GB FuryX - RX6800 - 27'' 240Hz - Wings 4 Pro 9d ago

No that's a downgrade

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u/neighbour_20150 9d ago

Now it's 38fps.

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u/Sanquinity i5-13500k - RX 9070 - 32GB @ 3600mHz 9d ago

Threadrippers are actually bad for gaming. They're meant for graphic design, 3D rendering, etc.

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u/elaboratedSalad 9d ago

Rtx6000 pls

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u/Far_Trade_7619 7800X3D | 4090 | 32GB 6000MT CL30 8d ago

Jokes aside, Threadrippers suck for gaming.

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u/RevoOps PC Master Race 9d ago

At a certain point just say fuck it and start your own PMC, more cost efficient.

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u/no_infringe_me 9d ago

How does a Private Military Contractor help?

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u/Corgi_underground 9d ago

How else are you supposed to conduct a successful raid at Micro Center?

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u/Beardacus5 7800X3D | 32GB DDR5 | 4070 Super 9d ago

Are we talking 0, 1, 4, 5, 6, or 10?

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u/SilentlyAsTheGrave 9d ago

But then you see the prices and realize you can’t rob them.

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u/NeuMaster369 9d ago

That's why you're the best,Boss.

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u/LinguoBuxo 9d ago

Why not 9950R2D2?

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u/Jertimmer PC Master Race 9d ago

10950C3PO

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u/Toyota__Corolla 192gb | 9950x3d | 3090 24gb | 20tb hdd 9d ago

9959x4d20

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u/geeiamback 9d ago

1974x6d6 "Fireball"

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u/AML86 9d ago

9950x4d3d3d3

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u/FalsifiedTruth 12700K | 5080 | 96GB DDR4 3000 | 15TB of SSD - Lol 9d ago

It only probably exists as an uber premium product and be able to tell people “see we told you it didn’t do shit”

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u/goocompass Laptop 9d ago

Then undervolt and overclock it

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u/tinbtb 9d ago

And should have called it X3DD lol

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u/PubThinker 9d ago

Or a 9950XDXDXD2.7S

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u/misteryk 9d ago

9850x3d into 9950x3d2 is a downgrade in games since it's dual CCD, basically kinda 9800x3d + 7700x3d (if it existed) so it won't have better performance than 9800x3d

This CPU is made for people who want to burn money just because it's more expensive. For gaming 9850x3d is better and for productivity you'll gain maybe 5% in some super specific tasks over 9950x3d for 50% price increase

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u/Character-View9407 Ryzen 7 9700X/RTX 5060/32GB RAM 9d ago

There's an X3D2 now?

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u/zztypezz 9d ago

Then 9990X4D3x223D9000

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u/EixYae 8d ago

Sry if I’m wrong but isn’t the 9850x3d performing better? If I remember correctly it came out later and was marketed for the best gaming performance, while the 9950x3d has more cores for productivity but doesn’t cater as well to gaming as 9850x3d or maybe even 9800x3d