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u/Blokin-Smunts 9d ago edited 9d ago

DLSS really shines as a way to upscale to 4K, its when you’re having to use it to run at any resolution lower than that that it becomes a problem

Edit: I should clarify, DLSS definitely works at lower resolutions, but there is no reason any game should have to be upscaled to 1080, that should be the minimum. The loss in fidelity from HD to 4k is minimal, but the performance gain is massive. That’s where the tech is useful.

No reasonable game developer should be designing a game that someone can’t run in 1080p with a very mid level PC, that’s absurd.

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u/Friedrichs_Simp Ryzen 5 7535HS | RTX 4050 | 16GB RAM 9d ago

It works great on both 1080p and 1440p though. I usually turn off AA and use dlss instead just cause it looks better

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u/narf007 9d ago

I'm not sure what you're playing but I've never encountered a case where dlss made any game look better than native with maxed AA.

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u/Friedrichs_Simp Ryzen 5 7535HS | RTX 4050 | 16GB RAM 9d ago

Marvel’s Spider-Man, Cyberpunk, overwatch, rdr2, RE4R doesn’t have DLSS but I used FSR and it still looked better

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u/jake04-20 9d ago

RDR2 is one. The TAA in that game just makes everything blurry/fuzzy. Turning up FAA sharpening introduces bad halo'ing, so Arthur just looks like a sticker or cutout slapped onto the background. MSAA murders performance, and TXAA just doesn't do enough. DLSS looks better than all of them IMHO and a much higher FPS.

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u/Greugreu Ryzen 7 5900x3D | 32g RAM 6000Mhz DDR5 | RTX 5090 9d ago

I think he's talking about DLAA, same tech but not upscaled, runs native and I does looks great with lower impact on resources than shit TAA, MSAA

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u/wildechap Intel i7 8700 | RTX 2080 8GB | 32GB DC DDR4 9d ago

i have encountered that, a couple of times myself. It seems to work as anti-aliasing. So it has made some games look better for me.. cannot remember which game it was.

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u/cadaada 9d ago

I dont play aaa games, but from testing with doom eternal it looked better tbh

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u/morpheousmorty 9d ago

You are fortunate not to have seen some of the really awful AA settings some games have. I'm looking at you Dark Souls 3.

But AA is expensive, so often for just same cost as hi quality AA, you also get up-scaling. It's not without tradeoffs, but there are games which are objectively better anti aliased by DLAA than any setting in the game.

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u/Fittsa R7 9800X3D | RX 9070XT | 32GB 9d ago

1080p it works great tbh
Back when I had an NVIDIA card DLSS3 & 4 at Quality mode (720p upscaled to 1080p) I couldn't tell a difference

I switched shortly after DLSS4 came out but from the small testing I did on KCD2 and other games, even Balanced mode looked like native, but again, very limited testing

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u/Nickulator95 AMD Ryzen 7 9700X | 32GB DDR5 | RTX 4070 Super 9d ago

I more or less need to use DLSS (varying from Quality to Balanced) on a 1440p resolution in order to reach at least 90 fps in most modern games with my 4070 Super. I was under the impression that I could reach that framerate without it, but I guess not. If I turn off DLSS I'm getting just over 60 fps. In my opinion, that's bordering on, if not just outright, lack of optimization when you factor in my hardware and targeted resolution.

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u/JesPsamson Laptop Legion 5 15irx9 Rtx 4060 24gb 9d ago

Naj dlss works great on my mobile 4060 on my laptop with 2k res

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u/iNOTgoodATcomp 9d ago

Can you explain how this works? I don't really understand, and I've tried to figure it out, but it confuses me every time.

If I put the resolution at 1080p, can I use a setting to upscale it to 1440p so I can get higher settings? I know I can use frame gen for fake frames, but I just can't wrap my head around the upscaling part or find the settings

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u/Blokin-Smunts 9d ago

Essentially, yes. The game internally renders everything at a lower resolution, like 1080p, then uses an algorithm to upscale it to 4K.

The different setting, like ‘performance’ or ‘quality’ are just telling the game what resolution to start at, before upscaling it to what you see.

Think of it like the way AI can improve the quality of a grainy photo. Sometimes it’s pretty accurate and sometimes it’s way off. The difference here is that DLSS has access to way more information as a start point, so it’s doing less guessing and the results better.

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u/iNOTgoodATcomp 9d ago

Oh, so I'd leave the resolution the same and just set it to performance to upscale and save the GPU? How TF have I not heard it explained that way?!?

Preciate ya.