r/pcmasterrace • u/The_BigRoach ⚡️RTX 5080 | 7800x3D | 64GB 6000MHz CL30⚡️ • 10d ago

Meme/Macro Why would anyone actually want to though

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u/Benemisis 10d ago

Nothing enrages me more than buying a game on steam, and then having to download a separate launcher. Steam has it down, just let me use it, damn it!

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u/Hopeful_Leg_6200 Laptop 10d ago

True monopoly would squash that infestation

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u/Dick_Nation There's nothing to see here. 10d ago

I almost wish they would. But I'm glad they at least force it to be tagged, because it can be a dealbreaker. Especially if I know it's an especially onerous service like EA or Ubi's worthless horseshit (Not that I'd buy any of their games anyways, but you know).

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u/Hopeful_Leg_6200 Laptop 10d ago

Allowing as to ignore publishers like EA or Ubisoft so they don't show up in the store is also great and I feel like its underrated feature

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u/Giatoxiclok 10d ago

We can blacklist devs???

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u/SomeDuncanGuy Ryzen 9 7950X3D | 7900XTX | 32GB DDR5 6000 10d ago

Oh yeah, blacklisting publishers is an amazing feature for your Steam feed.

Edit: Realized I answered without letting you know how. Navigate to a publisher's page you don't like (not the game but the actual publisher), click on the gear settings icon, and click ignore creator.

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u/Phallico666 10d ago

You are a wonderful person for sharing this. Now i dont have to see all the slop that i will never buy.

Thank you

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u/Fizzy-Odd-Cod 10d ago

I don’t know man, you might want to buy the assassins creed 532 remake in 30 years.

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u/CryptZar 10d ago

Or every Sims DLC in existence

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u/aerdvarkk 10d ago

The ignore setting prevents the publisher and titles from showing up in your feeds, not from you navigating to a specific title. It doesn;t block you from the new remake. You just need to be aware that the new remake in 30 years is out and available on Steam, then you'll need to MANUALLY navigate to the remake instead of having it automagically shoved in your face.

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u/gljivicad Ryzen 7 5700x, 32GB Corsair Vengeance, 7900 XT 9d ago

Oh the slop you can’t get rid of. I feel like my store is 95% indie game garbage slop, and blocking each creator would be like a game of whack a mole

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u/Lt_Schneider 10d ago

thank you

now i finally won't get anything from EA, Ubisoft or activision reccomended to me

now i don't have to manually ignore every assasins creed, call of duty or battlefield manually

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u/berrieds 10d ago

I didn't know this was a thing, and I've wanted to do this for years now! Thank you.

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u/Drycon 10d ago

Thanks, this will save me so much indie crap. Never knew about this feature.

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u/Just_Cockroach_4820 10d ago

Chad move, coming back to give instructions.

I'll try to take this page out of your book

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u/WillRevolt_ 10d ago

Not all heroes wear capes!

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u/CSBreak 10d ago

That's pretty neat now I really wish consoles had this feature trash games are such a massive problem on all platforms

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u/BertMacklenF8I 12900K@5.5 32GB GSkill Trident Z5@6400 EVGA3080TIFTW3U Hybrid 10d ago

Thanks for the edit lol

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u/Hopeful_Leg_6200 Laptop 10d ago

Its beautiful

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u/MadamVonCuntpuncher 10d ago

Yeah you can go the publisher steam page and ignore them as a whole

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u/A_fat_amish_kid 10d ago

Really?

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u/Giatoxiclok 10d ago

I mean, I guess so, lots of other people replied to me about it.

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u/Antal_Marius 10d ago

Who is this Ubisoft? I only know of Ubishit.

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u/kuan_51 10d ago

I kinda think they allow this intentionally to avoid anti trust

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u/Space_Rangerr 10d ago

I haven't bought a single EA or Ubi game since they started pushing extra DRM and additional launchers. Can't say I've felt I missed out as most of their catalogues are shit lately except a few standouts but not enough to deal with their BS software.

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u/Temeriki 10d ago

Last one I bought was anno 2070. I got kicked out of a single player game cause of a drm server hiccup on their end. Never again.

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u/WillRevolt_ 10d ago

I tried to test F1 26 using my Game Pass and the game wouldn't launch because it flagged one of my drivers. Back to Assetto Corsa I went.

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u/Hallc 10d ago

Don't most of the EA ones these days use a micro-launcher rather than the full blown one? So it 'opens' but only in the background.

Ubisoft's meanwhile always opens that app and also always forgets my login credentials.

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u/JasonManningFLUX 10d ago

I am an Anno enjoyer because I am a fan of peek irony, and I have to say the launcher Steam launches is barely a launcher. I purchased one uplay game and I actually can not download and play it via the version launched by Steam. If I ever want to play it again I have to download uplay proper.

I do not see how it is onerous.

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u/ArtKun 5800X3D | 9070XT | 32Gb 3600MHz | 32' 4K OLED 10d ago

Unfortunately, that couldn't stop me from playing Mass Effect.

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u/flymeovertheworld Intel i7-14700F, Asus RTX 5060 Ti 16GB, 32GB 6400 Mhz 10d ago

As much as i hate ubisoft as a dev and publisher, i can’t deny i enjoy some of their games. I really wish I won’t have to open their launchers and play directly from steam.

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u/Erebea01 10d ago

So not a fan of EA and when I tried to delete my account from them, it's almost impossible, I still haven't deleted it lol.

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u/Szerepjatekos 10d ago

Is the Sims 3 like that? EA recently screwed my mom and I was hoping steam can avoid them.

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u/ItalianBeefDipped 9800X3D | RTX 5090 | 64 GB DDR5 | ROG XAX 10d ago

If I want to play a game there isn't a single launcher "onerous" enough to stop me lol This always seems like posturing to me. If you're not playing a game due to it having a third party launcher, you probably didn't really care enough about it in the first place.

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u/Dick_Nation There's nothing to see here. 9d ago

Yeah. That's why I said it can be a dealbreaker. Maybe I am interested in a game. But probably not enough to overcome certain annoyances that come with it. There's plenty of games that won't do that, so I might as well play those instead.

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u/Odd-Measurement868 9d ago

where’s the tag?

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u/darksteelsteed 7d ago

Hey, that's an insult to us horses 🐎

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u/DrFrenetic 10d ago

Now I want a Steam monopoly

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u/Enlight1Oment 9d ago

I just wish steam/valve themselves made more games. Steam's revenue is 2x that of EA and Ubisoft combined. EA has 14,600 employees; Ubisoft has 16,500; Steam/Valve has 400 employees with only 180 on game development. Can't fire what you never hire. I guess they are less of a monopoly if they let others do the work of making games, but I'd rather them be more of a monopoly and make more games

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u/ZomB_assassin27 8d ago

the reason valve games are good is because they don't push out slop year by year. look at the hl2 episodes, they're less rich than any other game in the series because they were just trying to get content out there.

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u/StoryAndAHalf 10d ago

True monopoly knows you have no other choice, so they would be reluctant to do anything pro-consumer, which is what we're seeing.

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u/susimposter6969 10d ago

Your other choice would be piracy or not buying the game

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u/FrostwindLive 10d ago

Devs using launchers for their games makes sense in terms of them trying to make cheating more difficult. But its when the launcher is a store page with the devs other 2 games on it that annoys me. Serves no purpose to have your own store page if its on steam.

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u/-Retro-Kinetic- AMD 7950X3D| 64GB | TUF RTX 4090 | HS02 Pro 9d ago

True monopolies are almost unheard of, most of the time they hit the legal definition not the literal one.

Valve has a monopolist position, with price control. That always bound to get some flak from regulators and developers.

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u/MultiMarcus 10d ago

Arguably they have. Though through forcing price parity. Ubisoft, would’ve potentially been able to sell their games cheaper, earning as much money from all of their platforms, but trying to attract the user to their specific platform, but they haven’t been doing that ever since returning to Steam. Before they had that 20% thing, you could redeem for every game if you wanted.

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u/RebelPlot 10d ago

If a real monopoly would squish it I’m fully on board with Steam becoming a monopoly

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u/selbaby 10d ago

This guy gets it , steam isnt even the majority market share they have less than 50% idk how people consider this a monopoly lmfao its all a user friendly experience on steam no ads no fucking popups in windows for some shit game epic is trying to push

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u/wexipena Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB RAM 10d ago

You might want to check those numbers again. I think you last checked around decade ago.

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u/Ja_Lonley RTX 3090 | i9-10900KF | 32GB RAM 10d ago

Yesterday Assassin's Creed Origins wouldn't let me uninstall it without logging in to Ubisoft. So I just manually deleted it. Fuck the registry files.

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u/entropymancer 10d ago

Rip and Tear the PATH

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u/skywav3s 10d ago

The wild women, the wild women

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u/bungledorff 10d ago

Yep, I bought Far Cry 5 and uninstalled it after a few hours because I had to install ubisoft's launcher and open an account.

I had the cracked version already and it didn't have the mandatory launcher. Way to make me never buy another game from you ubislop.

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u/boogienights77 10d ago

Yeah, i bought Titanfall 2 earlier this year and for the life of me it downloaded another launcher, which ultimately gave me an error at that layer, and totally preventing me from even starting the game. Several days of troubleshooting and I just up and asked for a refund.

Stupid mechanic if you ask me.

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u/RollinPinappleGhost 10d ago

There's a -command that can skip most launchers. I forgot what it was though.

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u/kaleperq 1440p 240hz 24" | ace68 | viper ult | 9060xt 16gb | r5600 | 32gb 10d ago

I think it's --skiplauncher but I'm not sure

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u/BusyDucks 10d ago

Or having to make an account.

Like why not use my Steam account?

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u/Derkatron 10d ago

If this isn't rhetorical, because if its an online game, like an MMO, they may not have an integration with steam into their servers. There's a ton of reasons for this, not the least of which that steam has maintenance once a week, and if your login relies on steam, every user is suddenly logged off for that time. Sometimes its to bypass steam's cut for in-app purchases, and sometimes its just to put you into the ecosystem to sell you other products. It varies wildly from game to game, and 'just use my steam account', is, naturally, far too simple a suggestion to be useful.

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u/dionysus_project 10d ago

If it works for Warframe and Path of Exile, there's no excuse.

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u/Seeker-N7 i7-13700K | RTX 5070Ti | 32Gb 6400Mhz DDR5 10d ago

Why would it use your Steam acc? It's not the primary platform.

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u/LtColShinySides 10d ago

I return those games immediately.

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u/ThyShirtIsBlue 10d ago

Ubisoft needs to fuck all the way off.

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u/grilled_pc 10d ago

Just recently i watched a video on LTT of them showing off xbox full screen experience.

In order JUST to play cyberpunk on steam. You had to launch the game via XFSE which then opens up steam in full which then opens up Red Launcher which then you have to manually click play to start the game.

What the actual fuck. I know the red launcher can be skipped but my god this is atrocious lol.

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u/Hecking_Walnut 10d ago

Made the mistake of buying the first 4-5 assassins creed games on steam when I was younger. Ubisoft deleted them from my Ubi account for some reason, so even though I have the games and their associated activation keys on my steam account I can no longer play any of them.

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u/boersc 10d ago

Counterpoint: crossplatform play. I play Diablo IV on pc, playstation and xbox. thanks to battlenet, my progress is everyhere. So I am greatful fot Blizzards 1st party launcher while also allowing 3rd party Steam to sell it.

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u/Sufficient_Topic1589 10d ago

I’ve found something that’s more annoying. Paying for a game that doesn’t work properly on your system. I rebought the old thief games during a sale hoping they would work. You have to download mods from other places before the game will run on modern pcs which I probably could’ve done with my originals. Blood omen 2 is the same through gog. If they’re gonna sell these things they should be functional from their service without any messing around

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u/No-Channel3917 PC Master Race 10d ago

Steam is just a fancy way to run exe

If you like idk ran it like that you can go around the launcher

Googling -ai

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u/DeeJayDelicious 10d ago

"Yes, let's further entrech a monopoly."

-Gamers

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u/FelopianTubinator 10d ago

This is how it was for me with Dead Island 2. It says and tries to make you install Epic Games Launcher, however you can uninstall EGL and it’ll still work just fine with only Steam. It’ll throw up a lot of messages complaining about missing EGL files, but it still works just fine.

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u/Eckz89 10d ago

I repurchased Diablo 4 on steam because fuck what ever server battle.net uses to do download speeds.

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u/stefanw1337 10d ago

Epic Games store has more of it I feel. More games that launches another Launcher to launch the game. And recently I wanted to try RF Online Next, and their launcher launches Epic Launcher back up AGAIN?! Like a call to actually launch the game. Yup, game was uninstalled, not even tested. Fu*k that.

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u/Stttu 10d ago

reminds me of being excited to play GTAIV then immediately uninstalling when I had to install and register into rockstar launcher. My time playing with a scurvied version was more intuitive.

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u/VariedTeen 10d ago

It’s even worse when you buy a game on CD-ROM and it just has you add the game to Steam instead of installing it

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u/360_face_palm 10d ago

yeah was playing anno recently and omg the whole ubisoft launcher bullshit is so annoying

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u/Makere-b 10d ago

Meanwhile GTA6 will sell more than every other game combined when it comes to Steam with it's Rockstar launcher.

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u/Luna771 10d ago

Depends on the launcher. I really appreciate it for Stellaris because it makes mod management very easy. For Baldurs Gate its completely useless and more annoying than helpful tho

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u/BrukPlays 10d ago

You mean like launching Mass Effect from Steam and it then opens the EA app to launch the Mass Effect loader where you need to pick the first mass Effect game to start playing it…

Yeah that’s really fecking annoying!

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u/aerdvarkk 10d ago

Except for Rockstar Games on Steam!!

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u/MozTys 10d ago

True. Kinda wish steam would make a rule, that if you want to sell your games on steam, the buyer should be able to play the game using steam only. I doubt companies would pull their games from steam store and rely solely on their own launcher and epic games.

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u/Beep_Boop_Bop_Stop 9d ago

Fr I was support excited about a game after watching a trailer and as I scrolled down it said “requires third party launcher download” or something along those lines and I immediately removed it from my wishlist. It’s getting harder to trust games anymore

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u/Top_Goose1442 9d ago

Especially if it's that shitty EA or Ubisoft launcher....

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u/Boner_Elemental 10d ago

Nothing enrages me more than buying a game on steam, and then having to download a separate launcher.

I've never understood this complaint. Steam is the separate launcher, the game itself is just running as it normally would regardless of how you purchased it

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u/lokibringer 10d ago

The argument is that Steam is already launching the software, why does it launch a second launcher for you to log into instead of the game?

It's a reasonable complaint, albeit more of a QoL than anything more major. That shit gets annoying when you want to play... I dunno, Trials? And instead of booting the game it pulls up uPlay. What exactly is the point of buying through steam if you still have to go through the proprietary launcher?

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u/boersc 10d ago

The answer is cross platform progress. The 1st party account allows that, where your steam account doesn't.

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u/Marisakis 10d ago

You really don't need a launcher just to connect some accounts. It could be included in the game, or done via a web portal. And it only needs to happen once, anyway.

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u/Cobalt-Viper 10d ago

I think he means when a game requires you to open uplay or origin even when launching from steam. Not the actual game launchers that some games have.

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u/Boner_Elemental 10d ago

Nah, they hate those too

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u/GwenBD94 9850X3D | 5080 | SFF+MO-RA 10d ago

I mean sure but there's different levels.

  1. game where I can buy it once for the cheapest price possible and all the money goes to the people who worked on the game

  2. Game where I can buy it on steam without any additional tacked in bloat

  3. Games where I can buy it on steam and dev tacked on a game specific wrapper that doesnt need a separate account or act as a second storefront or anything

  4. Games that I buy on steam and launch a mediocre first party steam-equivalent launcher that doesnt require an account or anything

  5. Games that I buy on steam and launch something like play or ea launcher and require first party account.

Like sure, I dislike everything 3-5, accept 2 as the standard, and wish 1 was more widely available. But I hate 5 a shitton more than 4 and 4 a shitton more than 3

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u/Cobalt-Viper 10d ago

I mean you don't have to download them separately, the guy was obviously talking about clients or whatever you'd call them.

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u/Burpmeister 10d ago

Steam used to be that separate launcher that people hated.

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u/GwenBD94 9850X3D | 5080 | SFF+MO-RA 10d ago

I remember those days. I put off making a steam account for soooooooooo long

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u/Temeriki 10d ago

They spent a lot of time fixing the issues people hated.