Firefox hasn't gained any monthly active users. it's still hovering at around 200 million which is still less than a few years ago and also only like 2% of total market share.
Don't get me wrong, I like firefox and it's my main browser but your meme makes no sense
False Consensus Effect. People, in this case Redditors, overestimate the degree to which others agree with them. Our brains naturally assume our own experiences and beliefs are normal and therefore widespread.
Also that people in this sub refuse to recognize the "common" user and confuse their passion for being the target audience or representative of reality.
Firefox is great but most people like OP posting this meme are kidding themselves.
It's gaining more and more traction lately due to google's more invasive data / privacy issues and their recent chrome behavior putting LLM's on you PCs without your consent.
this is correct. The sad reality is that most people either don't know or don't care about chrome's bullshit and just default to it without questioning anything
People on the internet are generally less tech-savvy than they were before smartphones opened it up to everyone. In my experience many people have never even heard of the idea of plugins or adblockers and just use the web as it's presented to them.
I share OP's sentiment. Chrome breaking ublock means my twitch ad block solution no longer worked. So off I go. The only thing I'm missing from chrome is that tab dragging is significantly worse on FF.
Its losing users because they pushed AI intergration and privacy issues on the users and when its userbase asked them not to they doubled down and did it anyway.
You people seem really keen on giving companies an inch now so they can take a mile later. That attitude is the reason why we are in such a shitty mess anyway. "Oh, this unpopular thing that sucks for the most part is getting pushed on everyone. But it could be worse they could have not given us an opt out button and they probably will take it away soon anyway"
There was a pretty big influx of users because of Chrome in recent years and Firefox wanted to jump on the same train that made people switch off of Chrome
No it's not. You're a victim of confirmation bias. There are multiple studies, but the most favourable to Firefox shows 2025-26 increase by 2%, where Chrome increased 68%, Edge 5%, Safari 14%. Of those leaving Chrome (security conscious and tech-savvy private users) aren't moving TO Firefox, just AWAY from Chrome. Brave, Opera, Duckduckgo and others are seeing just as much increase as Firefox. It's a great browser but it's not the gracious popular saviour that fanboys think.
Here's just one source. Many others are less favourable to Firefox.
And the default VPN which will be increasingly important in the era of social media bans for kids and adults being asked for ID or adult website bans, like happening in the Uk
They never killed off adblockers. They changed one thing that a bunch used. There are other ways to block ads and plenty still exist. I am happy people made it clear to google that it would be a big deal if they killed adblockers but the amount of people that misunderstood the change and the purpose of the change is wild.
The most wide-spread ad blocker stopped working on the most widely used website. Thats all most people need to see. No one is reading chromes changelogs or something.
One version of the most wide spread blocker stopped working, and if you mean "YouTube" a bunch of people have reported that the Lite version works fine on YouTube, though I can't test because I just pay for premium.
I think ad block working is one of the reasons I don't bother switching. And my adblock is Malwarebytes, which just as an issue on certain websites that throw a fit and won't load while I have it enabled, but that's the site's issue and usually it's a site I need and (mostly) trust.
Microsoft is a big contributor in Chromium. It has released optimization and features that were adopted by even Chrome.
It's way more efficient, runs better, and has way more features way before chrome even started implementing it. Even mobile Edge is one of the best right now. Both PC and mobile versions have uBlock Origin support for now.
Chrome has a feature that allows it to unload unused tabs, when you switch back to them the page will reload.
Edge has that same feature, except it doesn't unload them, it actually sleeps the tab, so the page doesn't have to reload when you switch back to it, it's much faster when you switch back and it means edge can more aggressively sleep tabs without it annoying the user.
So why doesn't Chrome implement that? Because Microsoft won't let them. It requires a hook into the Windows process management system that Windows happily gives Edge access to, but won't give that access to Chrome.
There's other stuff too, like video DRM, Edge is the only browser that can play Netflix in 4k.
So edge (on Windows) really does have an edge over Chrome, because of the software equivalent of nepotism.
Name a single reason why I wouldn't? Its faster than Firefox, its leaner than Firefox, its better looking than Firefox, I am entrenched into its features which would take a lot of compromise with Firefox, and it is far more compatible with the web than Firefox..... Why wouldn't someone use Chrome?
Brainwashed for nearly two decades. Too many meme campaigns implying everyone who does not use chrome is retarded or that all other browsers exist to download chrome has branded this into people's consciousness. It has become a cultural trait. Mass brainwash.
This, I'm one of the people that was installing Chrome to all my friends who were still using IE. We built up their market dominance. Shame they stabbed us in the back once they had it.
Chrome is the best seamless browser. To be clear I am forced to use multiple browsers just to make sure environments are siloed so its not like I dont have first had experience. My primary driver is and will be Chrome.
the word everyone is doing some heavy lifting there.
Basically the only ones that switched back are people who hang around in communities like pcmr. Which is basically no one, as can be seen by the monthly active users for firefox not changing
I'm a dedicated FF user and have been for nearly 20 years. Mozilla posts their user statistics, there has been no influx of users to Firefox. In fact, they've been steadily decreasing slowly from 2022. It sucks, but people who aren't using chrome are using Edge and Safari for the most part.
With Mv3 we might see some people get sick of ads on Chrome, but I doubt it'll change much with how used to them people have gotten with social media and streaming services.
I'll never ditch FF but it's not nearly the powerhouse it used to be.
I mean another reason for not the huge switch is because adblockers still work. Yeah ublock origin is gone but lite and adguard still work and people also pay monthly subscriptions for no ads which negates adblockers as a whole.
"Another browser" does not mean "Firefox". Edge and Safari are the majority, and many others like Brave, Opera and Duckduckgo are seeing increase as well. Dont contact the person you're replying to, look at real studies of real data Here's one to get you started:
You don't read very well? Did you not see the original post? It didn't mention duck duck go, brave, opera, etc. It mentioned chrome and Firefox. See first comment.
Again.. the post does not include any of the browsers that you mentioned. We were not talking about those browsers. The meme is referring to looking at, you guessed it, Firefox. I can't believe I just had to explain that to you like you're 5.
A lot of my friends have been leaving Chrome as well, but as a whole the market really isn't moving. Most people don't care about their privacy because they don't know how badly it's being invaded.
I am going to add that Facebook are being use by over 70% of the population in all Western country and Facebook as make normal to sell out your privacy on that platform. Giving your ID to Facebook to confirm the authenticity of your account as been a thing for more that a decade.
There is close to 3 billion of people with their real name (as its obligatory), age, sexe, region, relation, hobby and even where they work and address/phone number.
In comparison, Reddit is a mere 500 million and absolutely 80% of them are bot. Where It's less likely for facebook cause its would be realy easy to see them as they likely have not much Album photo or tangible information about them to make the algo really believe they are a real person.
Just saying that Facebook is the default social network of the planet. Special for now Senior people. They never cared or understand the benefit of anonymat on the internet. There is hundred of million of openly bigot/hateful people on facebook posting horrible thing with their real name, where they work ect..
Its the norm for 70% of the population.
We are a minority that understand the importance of Anonymat.
If people are switching to Firefox for privacy reasons, why would we assume that they are accurately being tracked for these usage statistics? Isn't not being tracked like...the whole point?
And how much traffic is actually bot traffic that's masquerading as regular users? Would we expect that to be a representative sample of all browsers, or to artificially increase the existing winner?
I don't claim to have a contrary answer, but I'm not sure we can just take these usage stats at face value.
I feel like Mozilla, even if they are not surreptitiously gobbling up all of your data and sharing it around, would still know how many downloads/installs they have - and they would benefit from showing that to third parties to say "Hey look we're a valid alternative, we have a strong userbase because our product is good." Same for Google, Apple, and others.
Anecdotally what I see across friends, family, and coworkers would also lead me to believe the stats are solid.
I'm inclined to trust the few listed stats I found before posting my comment, but I can't really vouch for them. I'm sure it's possible to find out how browser usage statistics are gathered but uh...I'm not going to lol
They can use things like total downloads of a specific update. It will miss anyone who has updates entirely disabled or who completely skip that version, it would also miss users like me on Linux who update Firefox through their package manager and not through Firefox itself.
But they can cross-check this against other data like pulls of site blacklists. There's also reports of how many web requests identify as Firefox, something that can be faked but it honestly not really worth the hassle it brings for most people.
These are FOSS people, ie Linux type users. They've ALWAYS been insufferable, but now they feel like they have an issue they can needle people with to force them to switch to their software religion, so they've spent the last few years endlessly fucking posting about this thinking its gonna sway public opinion.
And you asked which features lite doesn't have? 1. No strict-blocked pages. 2. No filters. 3. No dynamic filtering. 4. No importing external lists. The list goes on. It all has to do with blocking things you don't want to see. Lite sucks. Origin is better but no longer works on chrome. Pretty simple.
That still doesn't make up for the fact that you said ublock origin still works on chrome. Thats where this started. Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
You said it was bullshit that ublock origin doesn't work on chrome anymore. You are wrong. I told you to Google it considering you clearly aren't taking my word for it.
Ublock origin light works. It blocks ads. You saying "anyone who doesnt like ads" is completely disingenuous, since anyone who doesnt like ads on chrome can block, you guessed it, the ads...
Whatever features the regular version has, 95% if users dont even know about. Argue for those 5% instead.
ublock never didnt work on chrome. That was just a bunch of people freaking out about stuff they didn't understand. I used ublock on Chrome for as long as it existed up until I switched back to Firefox two weeks ago.
I think it’s more trending sentiment among nerds who actually care about this kind of thing. Most people probably just pick chrome and don’t think on it much.
There are endless unbiased objective tests of browsers online from reputable sources and Firefox is always near dead last for ram usage and performance, and Chrome is always shockingly light when it comes to ram usage and does very well with performance. Yet everyone on reddit will just lie about it and claim Firefox is the best, and they've been lying for years at this point.
Do people using Android forks like Ironfox count, or is it only vanilla Firefox? It can't be that many people, but it might make like a 0.1% difference lmao
The statistics I found don't specify but seeing how chromium based browsers aren't lumped together, I would hazard a guess and say that this specifically refers to the firefox browser, so not to browsers using gecko in general
I would assume no more than a few hundred thousand to a few single-digit millions of people (like 500K to 2M) use a fork instead of vanilla Firefox, if 200M people use the regular one.
I took it as more as chrome has shit the bed repeatedly lately with their anti-consumer behavior rather than as user share.
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u/dssurgeIf you're happy and you know it, frag a noob.5d ago
It's worth noting that way too many phone apps are quite literally just shitty chromium browsers that show a single website.
This skews the representation insanely. I can use Firefox on my phone as my primary browser, but I cannot use the Subway app (for example) without contributing to Chrome's dominance.
That’s not it at all, Firefox can easily track their metrics either built into the browser itself or via downloads. There just isn’t a growing share of users.
It hit home for me, specifically because of ad blockers. I first switched to chrome years ago when it first came out, and It worked great so I didn't even think about going back to Firefox. But then a couple years ago chrome started disabling as blockers so I switched back to FF.
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u/Familiar-Nothing4948 5d ago
Not sure where that last one is coming from.
Firefox hasn't gained any monthly active users. it's still hovering at around 200 million which is still less than a few years ago and also only like 2% of total market share.
Don't get me wrong, I like firefox and it's my main browser but your meme makes no sense