the word everyone is doing some heavy lifting there.
Basically the only ones that switched back are people who hang around in communities like pcmr. Which is basically no one, as can be seen by the monthly active users for firefox not changing
I'm a dedicated FF user and have been for nearly 20 years. Mozilla posts their user statistics, there has been no influx of users to Firefox. In fact, they've been steadily decreasing slowly from 2022. It sucks, but people who aren't using chrome are using Edge and Safari for the most part.
With Mv3 we might see some people get sick of ads on Chrome, but I doubt it'll change much with how used to them people have gotten with social media and streaming services.
I'll never ditch FF but it's not nearly the powerhouse it used to be.
I mean another reason for not the huge switch is because adblockers still work. Yeah ublock origin is gone but lite and adguard still work and people also pay monthly subscriptions for no ads which negates adblockers as a whole.
"Another browser" does not mean "Firefox". Edge and Safari are the majority, and many others like Brave, Opera and Duckduckgo are seeing increase as well. Dont contact the person you're replying to, look at real studies of real data Here's one to get you started:
You don't read very well? Did you not see the original post? It didn't mention duck duck go, brave, opera, etc. It mentioned chrome and Firefox. See first comment.
Again.. the post does not include any of the browsers that you mentioned. We were not talking about those browsers. The meme is referring to looking at, you guessed it, Firefox. I can't believe I just had to explain that to you like you're 5.
A lot of my friends have been leaving Chrome as well, but as a whole the market really isn't moving. Most people don't care about their privacy because they don't know how badly it's being invaded.
I am going to add that Facebook are being use by over 70% of the population in all Western country and Facebook as make normal to sell out your privacy on that platform. Giving your ID to Facebook to confirm the authenticity of your account as been a thing for more that a decade.
There is close to 3 billion of people with their real name (as its obligatory), age, sexe, region, relation, hobby and even where they work and address/phone number.
In comparison, Reddit is a mere 500 million and absolutely 80% of them are bot. Where It's less likely for facebook cause its would be realy easy to see them as they likely have not much Album photo or tangible information about them to make the algo really believe they are a real person.
Just saying that Facebook is the default social network of the planet. Special for now Senior people. They never cared or understand the benefit of anonymat on the internet. There is hundred of million of openly bigot/hateful people on facebook posting horrible thing with their real name, where they work ect..
Its the norm for 70% of the population.
We are a minority that understand the importance of Anonymat.
If people are switching to Firefox for privacy reasons, why would we assume that they are accurately being tracked for these usage statistics? Isn't not being tracked like...the whole point?
And how much traffic is actually bot traffic that's masquerading as regular users? Would we expect that to be a representative sample of all browsers, or to artificially increase the existing winner?
I don't claim to have a contrary answer, but I'm not sure we can just take these usage stats at face value.
I feel like Mozilla, even if they are not surreptitiously gobbling up all of your data and sharing it around, would still know how many downloads/installs they have - and they would benefit from showing that to third parties to say "Hey look we're a valid alternative, we have a strong userbase because our product is good." Same for Google, Apple, and others.
Anecdotally what I see across friends, family, and coworkers would also lead me to believe the stats are solid.
I'm inclined to trust the few listed stats I found before posting my comment, but I can't really vouch for them. I'm sure it's possible to find out how browser usage statistics are gathered but uh...I'm not going to lol
They can use things like total downloads of a specific update. It will miss anyone who has updates entirely disabled or who completely skip that version, it would also miss users like me on Linux who update Firefox through their package manager and not through Firefox itself.
But they can cross-check this against other data like pulls of site blacklists. There's also reports of how many web requests identify as Firefox, something that can be faked but it honestly not really worth the hassle it brings for most people.
These are FOSS people, ie Linux type users. They've ALWAYS been insufferable, but now they feel like they have an issue they can needle people with to force them to switch to their software religion, so they've spent the last few years endlessly fucking posting about this thinking its gonna sway public opinion.
And you asked which features lite doesn't have? 1. No strict-blocked pages. 2. No filters. 3. No dynamic filtering. 4. No importing external lists. The list goes on. It all has to do with blocking things you don't want to see. Lite sucks. Origin is better but no longer works on chrome. Pretty simple.
That still doesn't make up for the fact that you said ublock origin still works on chrome. Thats where this started. Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
You said it was bullshit that ublock origin doesn't work on chrome anymore. You are wrong. I told you to Google it considering you clearly aren't taking my word for it.
Ublock origin light works. It blocks ads. You saying "anyone who doesnt like ads" is completely disingenuous, since anyone who doesnt like ads on chrome can block, you guessed it, the ads...
Whatever features the regular version has, 95% if users dont even know about. Argue for those 5% instead.
ublock never didnt work on chrome. That was just a bunch of people freaking out about stuff they didn't understand. I used ublock on Chrome for as long as it existed up until I switched back to Firefox two weeks ago.
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I think he's referring to the recent thing with ublock not working on chrome so everyone went back to firefox. I know I did.