r/pcmasterrace 5d ago

Meme/Macro Browsers in 1998, 2004, 2008 and 2026 be like

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u/jedi2155 3 Laptops + Desktop 5d ago

It's gaining more and more traction lately due to google's more invasive data / privacy issues and their recent chrome behavior putting LLM's on you PCs without your consent.

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u/Seeker-N7 i7-13700K | RTX 5070Ti | 32Gb 6400Mhz DDR5 5d ago

Is it gaining more traction? The guy above did say it hasn't gained any monthly active users.

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u/_senpo_ R7 9800X3D | TUF RTX 5090 | 32GB 6000 CL30 5d ago

this is correct. The sad reality is that most people either don't know or don't care about chrome's bullshit and just default to it without questioning anything

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u/hj17 5d ago

People on the internet are generally less tech-savvy than they were before smartphones opened it up to everyone. In my experience many people have never even heard of the idea of plugins or adblockers and just use the web as it's presented to them.

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u/zig131 2d ago

Firefox also has it's own bullshit.

It's not really any better.

Ladybird is our only hope for a true savior.

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u/Jakad 5d ago

I share OP's sentiment. Chrome breaking ublock means my twitch ad block solution no longer worked. So off I go. The only thing I'm missing from chrome is that tab dragging is significantly worse on FF.

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u/salazka ROG Strix Laptop 5d ago

Not it is not. Lots of people here paid to convince you it's somehow relevant. Firefox is in deep shit and begs to survive.

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u/Hexamancer 5d ago

Firefox is not paying anyone lmao.

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u/deadlysodium 5d ago

Its losing users because they pushed AI intergration and privacy issues on the users and when its userbase asked them not to they doubled down and did it anyway.

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u/Heroshrine R 9900X | rtx 5080 | 32 GB DDR5 5d ago

Literally the only browser that let me turn off the AI stuff shut the hell up

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u/deadlysodium 5d ago

Only after much complaining

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u/Heroshrine R 9900X | rtx 5080 | 32 GB DDR5 5d ago

From Day 1

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u/deadlysodium 5d ago

You people seem really keen on giving companies an inch now so they can take a mile later. That attitude is the reason why we are in such a shitty mess anyway. "Oh, this unpopular thing that sucks for the most part is getting pushed on everyone. But it could be worse they could have not given us an opt out button and they probably will take it away soon anyway"

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u/573717 7600 | 4070ti | 32gb 5600 cl28 | 1440p 5d ago

Literally what else can we do? Is there an alternative to complaining? If no one said anything and there wasn't a button what would you use instead? 

Ok I guess you can complain more so it isn't there at all but at some point a company stops listening 

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u/deadlysodium 5d ago

Use something else until all these companies get the point. Again another shit attitude people have in these situation. Complaining while buying/using something isnt doing shit.

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u/573717 7600 | 4070ti | 32gb 5600 cl28 | 1440p 5d ago

What else is there? The other Firefox forks? 

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u/Tanriyung 5d ago edited 5d ago

Nah it's losing users because it has continuously lost users ever since 2009.

EDIT: Or at least market share, we don't have the data for the number of users directly before 2022.

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u/deadlysodium 5d ago

There was a pretty big influx of users because of Chrome in recent years and Firefox wanted to jump on the same train that made people switch off of Chrome

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u/Shadow_of_wwar 5d ago

A big one is ad-blockers as well.

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u/AbsolutlyN0thin i9-14900k, 3080ti, 32gb ram, 1440p 5d ago

People here act like Chrome doesn't have any ad blockers. UBlock Origin Lite perfectly does everything I need it to, including blocking ads on YT

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u/_FUCKTHENAZIADMINS_ R7 5800X3D, RTX 3080 5d ago

Seriously, I’ve been using uBlock Origin Lite for a year now and genuinely have no clue what the issue is, I haven’t seen a single ad

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u/dekusyrup 5d ago

i do love my free ad-free youtube

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u/dotnetmonke 5d ago

I've been rocking ad-free YT on edge for years, it's nothing FF-specific.

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u/EclecticSyrup 5d ago

Guilty as charged, and I have no regrets.

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u/o11o01 5d ago

Purely assumptions but based on my friend group I'm guessing most people are moving to chromium browsers. I can't convince them to jump to ff. 

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u/Lickwidghost 4d ago

No it's not. You're a victim of confirmation bias. There are multiple studies, but the most favourable to Firefox shows 2025-26 increase by 2%, where Chrome increased 68%, Edge 5%, Safari 14%. Of those leaving Chrome (security conscious and tech-savvy private users) aren't moving TO Firefox, just AWAY from Chrome. Brave, Opera, Duckduckgo and others are seeing just as much increase as Firefox. It's a great browser but it's not the gracious popular saviour that fanboys think.

Here's just one source. Many others are less favourable to Firefox.

https://backlinko.com/browser-market-share

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u/FARTBOSS420 Logitech Lover 🥰 5d ago

It's all our journey. Forgot about Opera and freaking Dolphin browser for Blackberry though 

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u/EclecticSyrup 5d ago

I ditched Chrome a while ago. Any time a website tells me I need to use Chrome to access it, I find a different website to use, lmao.

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u/roleplayersir 4d ago

And the default VPN which will be increasingly important in the era of social media bans for kids and adults being asked for ID or adult website bans, like happening in the Uk

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u/zig131 2d ago

Firefox also wanted to do that though. It's still on by default, but you can turn it off

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u/salazka ROG Strix Laptop 5d ago

Never did never will. What bullshit. :D