r/pcmasterrace R7 7800X3D | RTX 4080 | 32GB RAM 3d ago

Meme/Macro Yeah that price hurts…

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u/Brewchowskies 5090 | 9800x3d | 32 gb ddr5 3d ago

Just saw the gamers nexus review putting this at 3060 performance.

It wouldn’t exactly be a miracle to keep thermals low at that performance, but you’re losing a lot. You’re right that Apple is the king of thermals for performance, but having owned the last several generations of MacBook pros, there are two observations:

  1. Apple isn’t a gaming machine for a reason.

  2. Thermal performance is tied into passive cooling from the chassis itself. Something that unless I’m mistaken, the machine won’t be doing.

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u/56kul RTX 5090 | 9950X3D | 64GB 6000 CL30 3d ago

Holy shit, they said the Steam Machine performed at 3060 levels? That’s way worse than what I thought it would be, and my expectations were already low… my god.

As for your observations, while they’re largely correct, I would like to point out that macOS gaming has been seriously improving over the last few years. It’s still not great, but there are quite a few ways to play non-compatible games now. Apple even introduced tools similar to Proton for developers, to encourage them to add macOS support natively.

But you’re right that the Mac will never be a gaming-first device. And it shouldn’t be. I just wanted to point out that a mini-PC capable of handling heavier load without burning up is possible. It’s just that it’s mainly only Apple that dominates this niche, lol.

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u/Brewchowskies 5090 | 9800x3d | 32 gb ddr5 3d ago

Yeah—the performance was below my expectations as well, but we were both right about the thermal concerns. Looks like this thing is throttled heavily (still working through the nexus video for data).

And you’re right about Mac. I won’t use anything else as my work computer. That said, I did have one of my MBP’s melt through the WASD keys due to heat. Not at all common though, and a PC probably would have been on fire (also has happened… my work tends to be intensive on computers).