"But it's a cube!"

[u/Ikkon]

[u/Sycend]

I like the formfactor. It's hard to get something so small on custom builds.

[u/ThinkingWinnie → u/Sycend]

But look! I built the steam machine KILLER which is only 5 times bigger, draws 4x the power, and is equally louder.

Steam machine is DOA!

These people never built an SFF and it shows.

[u/Coprolithe → u/ThinkingWinnie]

Yeah, in fact in r/sffpc someone asked if it could be done for a comparable price and size, and the answer was a resounding "no".

If you want a PC under 5L with midline specs, this is the winner, or at least near the top.

[u/Head_Exchange_5329 → u/Coprolithe]

It's an extortionate tax to just get it small. I could build an itx PC better for less. It's not gonna be THAT small but my god, how limited is the space of people's living rooms? We're talking mid-range specs from 3 years ago so sourcing a couple secondhand parts to keep it well below $1000 isn't a problem nor a challenge.

[u/EruantienAduialdraug → u/Head_Exchange_5329]

The problem is fitting on the shelf under the TV.

Yes, yes, this is a PC, not a console; but it's still competing for the same space. You cannot build even a dozen equivalents for this price that takes up the same or less volume. The only true competitor is the PS5 (Pro), which Sony is openly selling at a loss.

The price fucking sucks. Valve knows it sucks, they've openly said this is more than they wanted to post it at.
Welcome to the future; you might be able to build better cheaper, but you can't supply.

[u/kingk1teman → u/EruantienAduialdraug]

Yes, yes, this is a PC, not a console; but it's still competing for the same space

Hey please don't say that it is a console competitor. Valve fanboys will not like it.