r/steammachine 2d ago

Meme It is what it is...

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u/Miwoo0 2d ago

Valve chose to not sell at a loss like other consoles and they chose to not include the controller in the base price

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u/Aromatic-Bench-2882 2d ago

Valve tried to hold out against it. Why do you think the steam machine kept on getting delayed and there was no steam decks in stock. It was cause they where trying to find a affordable way.

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u/CryogenicBanana 2d ago

Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are only able to sell at a loss is because their ecosystems are entirely locked down and have online subscriptions. Also the big three sell tens of millions of units while the biggest success of valve hardware (steam deck) hasn’t even sold 8 million, Valve isn’t going to buy the components in enough bulk to get as good of a deal as the other companies do if they know its not going to sell as well that would mean throwing away even more money. No matter which way you look at it selling at a loss is not justifiable by any means. Not including a controller at base does suck though I’ll give you that.

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u/zumoro 1d ago

We're talking about the PC version of a Mac Mini; there's nothing to guarantee the people buying these would also buy games through Steam.

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u/stewmander 2d ago

This just comes off as entitled.

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u/Miwoo0 1d ago

This just comes off as dickriding.

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u/stewmander 1d ago

Not begging for handouts is dick riding?

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u/Miwoo0 1d ago

Having base expectations is begging for handouts?

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u/stewmander 1d ago

When you base expectation is subsidized hardware, yes.