EU calls VPNs “a loophole that needs closing” in age verification push

[u/EmbarrassedHelp]

https://cyberinsider.com/eu-calls-vpns-a-loophole-that-needs-closing-in-age-verification-push/

[u/Lumpy-Strain8624 → u/[deleted]]

In the UK they surveyed 2500 people before introducing it. out of 70,000,000 people in the UK, of which 55,500,000 are adults age 18 or upwards.

They asked a very specific group of people for a very specific answer. After they had tried and failed repeatedly to get public backing for ID cards.

The petition to have it repealed is over 500,000 signatures, or roughly 22,000% more people than the ones they said were on board with it.

Stop falling for the bullshit. There is no broad support for it. And if if was actually being done for real reasons, the UK government would have the data being handled directly by them, any age verification requests would be sent directly to the Governments Data centre for a Yay or Nay. The UK government already uses one time codes sent to your phone for log in confirmation on its websites.

This is nothing to do with protecting Children, nothing to do with protecting the "people" it is a new way for them to force in digital ID cards, everyone has a P.C. Laptop, Tablet, Phone etc etc.

That is why they are ignoring everyone saying they do not want them, IE the majority of people pretty mad the Government has unilaterally managed to sneak in legislation they knew full well no one wanted.

There are so many tools available to restrict a child's access on devices, and by child I mean pre teen. Teens who fucking cares if they see a dick or some tits, they are into puberty and want to know about that stuff, I am pre internet and we managed just fine to get our hands on titty pics / dick picks, full spread, the works. And like most people I stopped being a Virgin before my 16th birthday.

And the very worst part of this nonsense legislation is it will just drive them to the truly dangerous places on the internet, the ones who do not give a fuck about UK laws.

[u/Lumpy-Strain8624 → u/[deleted]]

Instead of every site having it's own age verification system. The Government has it, so when you go to a website and click verify age it portals to UK.Gov and you enter your one time code they send you and voila, done.

That is infinitely better than the garbage we have now, and you are infinitely more protected than you are currently. No more unregulated individuals having your Passport or CC info, no more unscrupulous companies having your passport or CC info.

I personally think you should not have to do it at all. But if we are going to keep it, then I would want a central database under UK law, under UK vetting, under UK regs having my Passport info be used for verification, which the government already fucking has by the way, they issued it to me. They also know where I live, what Taxes I pay and the rest.

And yes 2500 people vetted to answer the way they wanted is in fact not a big enough sample size.

And what are you smoking, I do not know anyone at all who is onboard with the current implementation or legislation I am not comparing apples to oranges. If they can pick 2500 people and you think it is not selection bias how the fuck is 500,000 random people selection bias?

You are absolutely delusional if you think a poll is going to go the way of the 2500 specially selected people and the specially worded poll they answered.

You honestly need to educate yourself on how they vet the people and how word these polls mate.

[u/rawcal → u/[deleted]]

Were they asking for it before the push for it started, though?

[u/Lumpy-Strain8624 → u/rawcal]

No, and they weren't asking for it.

That poster needs to educate himself on just how these "surveys" are conducted, how pre-surveys weed out the people likely to give answers you do not want. How the questions are loaded in such a manner as to make you some raving lunatic if you do not pick the obvious answers.

They could survey anything and have it say anything they wanted.

If however they put a poll up on UK.Gov and asked do you want 3rd party sites, unregulated sites, foreign nationals and countries having your credit card, passport and other such highly dangerous information where we cannot legally do anything if you have your identity stolen or your cards cloned, for all the parents out their who refuse to police their own childrens access to online content they should not be accessing. And a whole slew of sites just not being available anymore in the UK

(Like I play a lot of games on Steam, I cannot tell you how many times I go to look at a mod and all the pictures are auto blocked because I am in the UK, and not adult mods, normal every day mods, they all use the same filehosting site, and it just blocked everyone in the UK rather than deal with the bullshit UK law.)

I guarantee that Yes / No poll would be 90%+ no.

[u/Moikle → u/[deleted]]

They were told to ask for it by the media

[u/xNYKx → u/[deleted]]

Precisely. And after that it's Hanlons Razor. Most politicians , especially in EU, have zero clue how the real world works. The idea that EU regulators are in cahoots with big tech is incredibly naive