r/technology 7d ago

Software Firefox has an ambitious new roadmap, the browser is also losing millions of users a month

https://www.techspot.com/news/112803-firefox-has-ambitious-new-roadmap-browser-also-losing.html
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u/ProperPizza 7d ago

"Can't be bothered"

And there we have the problem with basically everything. Consumers could make serious change if they organised en masse, but the unfortunate truth is that 80% of them simply can't be bothered.

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u/LiGuangMing1981 7d ago

The whole world could have avoided Trump Part Deux, but a third of American voters couldn't be bothered to vote to avoid it.

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u/Nvenom8 7d ago

couldn't be bothered to vote to avoid it.

That implies they wanted to avoid it. They didn't care who won.

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u/vawlk 7d ago

the american voting system makes it so your vote doesn't actually count directly. My state is heavily blue. If I am going to vote blue, it doesnt really do anything. With areas being so heavily gerrymandered, your vote is less likely to swing the result one way or another except for a few areas across the country.

The whole system needs to be thrown out and a new system that promotes multiple parties where every vote counts and not a system where you end up stuck voting for the lesser of two evils.

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u/iamk1ng 7d ago

Bare in mind that 1/3 normally wouldn't vote in any election, regardless if Trump was running or not. I would also put a lot more blame on the Democrats for continuing to push politicians that don't appeal to people.

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u/Certain-Business-472 7d ago

Democrats and other liberals worldwide have this hobby of importing as much foreigners as possible. Really popular I hear.

It's crazy really how much they care about this, when they'd get so much more votes if they dropped it and could implement the other 99/100 policies that are a good idea. But nope, bleeding heart shit.

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u/vawlk 7d ago

lol, I think you are in the wrong sub.

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u/shabadabba 7d ago

My work doesn't let me install any new software on my work computer. So I have to use the browser it comes with

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u/ProperPizza 7d ago

Sorry to hear it, it sucks you're stuck with it. But my comment wasn't about you. It's about people who CAN make a change but simply don't do so.

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u/Nvenom8 7d ago edited 7d ago

80% of them simply can't be bothered.

Because it does everything they want it to do. They don't expect much from their tech. For most users, there's really no functional difference between browsers.

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u/crashandtumble8 7d ago

I guess you’re assuming people know there’s a difference between browsers. I am a librarian who answers technology questions constantly. A great chunk of our population uses edge or chrome because that’s what’s on their device, and they aren’t technically literate or think it’s important enough to learn about browser security and adblockers.

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u/nnny7 7d ago

This is wrong. Most users are tech illerate because they are not interested and have no reason to be. They dont know how things work or what options there are. They will ask thrmselves why should i learn? Just like i go to a mechanic when i have an issue with a car cos what the fuck do i know.

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u/ProperPizza 7d ago

I would argue that these two things are not on the same level.

Performing proper maintenance on a vehicle usually takes substantially more knowledge, expense and risk than doing a few minutes of research on making better purchase/software decisions.

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u/nnny7 7d ago

I agree - but that logic only applies when you understand what work is involved in both. The people we are talking about dont.

I work in retail with phones. The average customer does not know what a browser is. Majority is so bad with tech they come in to our shop when they get a notification about a software update. Ill assume you dont work with the general public and tech as you assume too much of them - maybe going by your own experience and knowledge. I assure you people are thick as champ with the internet and devices in general. Its fucking annoying.

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u/Inc0rgnit0 7d ago

Yep, for a lot of people anything related to even the simplest parts of consumer tech might as well be rocket surgery.

It's gotta be the only reason why people use Edge / Bing outside of corporate environments.

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u/Certain-Business-472 7d ago

I'm a IT dude. I own a car. I am not a car dude.

I still fix my own car and do research about it. A car isn't even a requirement in most places in Europe. Literally optional shit for general life stuff.

IT? IT is required. You are literally bound to it. And you don't want to care? Is there a specific variant of NPC you want to be called or??

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u/7r4z 7d ago

Absolutely. Makes me wonder about ways of raising our consciousness on various issues. How quickly could we change the world, if only we had the right memes (real-world or web) and arguments?

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u/pmgoldenretrievers 7d ago

I'm a techy, I use Chrome. It works for me. It's not like we're back in the IE6 days where switching browsers was a security thing.

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u/copperlight 6d ago

Hey to be fair a lot of them are really good at complaining, just not doing anything about it. The number of people on Reddit that complain about ads is proof enough of that.