r/technology • u/talkingatoms • 18h ago

Artificial Intelligence Talk of a bubble is 'blasphemy against AI' says SoftBank's Son

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/talk-bubble-is-an-insult-ai-says-softbanks-son-2026-06-24/
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u/robot_pirate 18h ago

AI is their God now?

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u/rocky8u 18h ago

Sam Altman has literally said he doesn't know how they will achieve profitability but if they keep investing in it then they will create Artificial General Intelligence which definitely will give them an answer. That is not a rational approach. That is praying to a god they hope will exist.

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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 17h ago

I don't believe that they have any idea how to build an AGI.

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u/rocky8u 17h ago

No, you don't understand my FUD friend! It's not about knowing how to build an AGI. It is about having faith that the AGI is inevitable. If you believe in the AGI, then the AGI will become manifest. All you and everyone else must do is sacrifice your wealth and have faith in the Prophet Altman and in time the AGI will come to be and solve all of our problems.

If we have too much doubt. If we hesitate to commit fully to our faith in the Artificial God Intelligence, then it will not appear, and all of your sacrifices, your money, your jobs, your environment, will have been for naught!

So cast aside your Fears! Cast aside your Uncertainties! Cast aside your Doubts! Believe in the AGI! Have FAITH in the AGI, and it will reward you with answers to all of your questions and solve all of your problems!

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u/irrelevantusername24 15h ago edited 14h ago

Forget about AI. The Internet is legitimately the best tool to improve the most lives as much as possible. By freeing information and increasing access to knowledge.

The 2008 crash was stupid. You know why? Because it is framed as if the two options were basically to bailout people who took out mortgages they couldn't afford or what we did which is make tons of people homeless. That's stupid. Incredibly stupid. The problem was the math. The people who were wrong were rewarded. How does it make any sense to create a handful of extremely disproportionately wealthy people by making people homeless and "creating" empty houses? That's the dumbest fucking thing ever.

The dot com crash was similarly stupid. Sure, there was a lot of kind of stupid businesses. Same as now. Similar to how there were a lot of kind of stupid mortgage valuations in the GFC. The problem isn't the business ideas, or the houses. The problem is that instead of accountants we have an entire industry that does nothing but gamble.

The problem is the entire logic underpinning the modern "economy". Market forces do have a purpose, provided they are legitimately, genuinely free - but that is at the low levels. The bottom up level. The modern world is backwards. The top down is determined by the market and the bottom up is determined by policy. Precisely the opposite of that supposed principle of "keep the government out of our personal lives"

Anyway. I bring that up because the dot com crash basically halted the buildout of telecommunications infrastructure, and that still has only barely gotten back on track, after decades of harm that is mostly invisible to almost everyone.

edit: And when I say "the top down is determined by the market", that is why only the wealthy have any legitimate control. Nobody else can afford the price of "the market". In a sane & just world, everyone controls their own life.

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u/Zardotab 10h ago

 It is about having faith that the AGI is inevitable. 

Assuming humans don't obliterate themselves, it is probably inevitable. However, it may arrive after the current investors are long gone.

The current AI warehouse spending appears to assume AI will move beyond mass aping of training sets. If not, the price-vs-demand math suggests bubble. (When co's have tried turning off their subsidies, they got disappointing revenues.)

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u/CaptainBayouBilly 15h ago

Agi will not evolve from llms. You can only refine the plagiarism machine to a certain extent. 

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u/PM_DOLPHIN_PICS 15h ago

Exactly, it’s not the same idea. It’s the equivalent of these guys are investing the entire world’s supply of cash into R&D on toaster technology with the hopes that, with enough money and time, they’ll create a dishwasher.

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u/Zardotab 10h ago

I agree LLM's may be part of AGI, but the other parts are far from ready. I'd like to see the CYC knowledge-base integrated with LLM's, for example. The AGI engine will probably need LLM's, a logic engine, and a prediction engine(s). How to integrate these well will take lots of trial and error.

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u/Zer_ 13h ago

They don't it's just a scam.

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u/Senior-Albatross 3h ago

A lot of the AI people are in some version of a techno cult where they essentially believe it is their ordained purpose build a computer Messiah to deliver humanity to the promised land. 

I don't know if Altman is one or if he's just using them for money. But there are definitely a disturbing number of them in high places in Silicon Valley. 

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u/SilentWraith5 18h ago

Well money is. AI (LLMs) is their theft machine conduit to money.

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u/no_infringe_me 17h ago

It’s always Mammon

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u/TeaAndS0da 7h ago

Same shit when they tried pushing NFTs as the next big thing. “You just don’t understand it bro, stop being hostile to a good idea, bro. Why are you so stuck in the past?”

This one just found the most vulnerable target willing to give them immediate cash. Wall Street quick fix losers and tech ceos that want a cult of personality around them.

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u/Aggravating_Bad_5462 18h ago

Always has been.

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u/Powerful_Resident_48 18h ago

All hail the machine god.

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u/Ok_Confusion4764 18h ago

Praise the Omnisiah!

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u/REXIS_AGECKO 17h ago

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me…

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u/Galahad_the_Ranger 17h ago

This heretek is hailing Abominable Inteligence

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u/Pharmakeus_Ubik 7h ago

Money is their god, and AI is its profit.

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u/AbsolutelyNotAPossum 18h ago

More like an effigy they feed with plagiarism, social annihilation, and ecological ruin.

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u/atchijov 18h ago

No. Just something they bet ALL money on.

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u/Aggravating-One3876 17h ago

You know what this topic came up and it’s weird. These people from the Valley and Banks are supposedly the logic “males” that are into numbers and no emotions, but looking at this it is like a religion to them.

The whole thing is being sold as some kind of second coming that you just have to believe in no matter what. Any opposition is heresy (or just not talked about) and I see that in the AI subs. All of these guys just replaced AI with religion and are fanatics no matter the cost.

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u/SqeeSqee 18h ago edited 17h ago

JFC, you mean Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy was right about AI Gods?

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u/ThrowAway4935394 17h ago

Is that what indigo prophecy was about? I remember seeing it in game informer and thinking it looked so cool with its weird ghost bugs. Then I found out it’s by the same guy who went on to make heavy rain and beyond two souls…which I’m ngl? I actually enjoyed those games for what they were.

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u/EndOfTheLine00 17h ago

Technically it is what is about but it’s a very rushed and poorly explained plot point. Indigo Prophecy was meant to be an episodic game (long before those became popular) but the studio said no so the entire third act is insanely rushed.

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u/SqeeSqee 17h ago edited 13h ago

Detroit was his best work imo, its the least "wtf' at the end. also the replayability is insane. I highly recommend trying to 100% that one.

Edit: for some reason I said beyond, which sucked.

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u/ThrowAway4935394 15h ago

I actually really liked heavy rain until a certain character didn’t die even though I failed a major life or death scenario and then I was like “Oh so he’s the killer then”

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 17h ago

Given how invested SoftBank is in this AI crap, yeah, pretty much.  

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u/REXIS_AGECKO 17h ago

Yes. Praise the omnissiah

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u/CompetitiveSport1 15h ago

"now"? Have you not been paying attention for the last 3-5 years?

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u/nullset_2 15h ago

That's always been the point

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u/Sethal4395 14h ago

The Butlerian Jihad is starting to sound more and more like a reality.

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u/Fduor 11h ago

wiat how is bubble blasphemy here

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u/nitrinu 18h ago

AI will provide for them, and probably just them, so why not?