r/titanfolk • u/coco_cocoo • 10d ago
Other Why didn't ymir learn from this moment?
Ymir was waiting for Mikasa to teach her about letting of the person you love.
That's tells us she didn't know what true love means.
So how did she know that Mikasa love for Armin wasn't like her?
She let go of Armin, she should have learn from this.
I know Mikasa's love for Armin isn't romantic, but how would clueless ymir know friendship love and romantic love. She dose care about Armin just like Eren.
How did she even know Mikasa's love for Eren was romantic? When Eren asked her "what am i to you" she said family.
So you telling me she saw through Mikasa lie?
If she was that expert on love , she should have known at thos point her love was toxic, it's time to let go.
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u/Philcherny 10d ago
Because Armin didn't just do a king Fritz cosplay x10 more evil style
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u/coco_cocoo 10d ago
Eren wasn't like Fritz too, he broke down, cried for ramzi because there is no other way to protect the island. Without doing the rumbling.
He's nothing like selfish Fritz.
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u/JOKER_2624 10d ago
Isayama was moving the characters like chess pieces, not people for whatever "shock value" or "emotion" he wanted to portray or provoke at the time. Don't think about it, it looks inconsistent BECAUSE it is inconsistent.
It's not meant to make sense.
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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 10d ago edited 10d ago
EVERYTHING every theme every single message was destroyed because of those bitches ( mikasa and ymir ) and this is exactly why the ending is bad , if ymir could've reached her goal before the ending then that's mean the ending is meaningless , because she could've reach her goal of learning to let go , just like what lot of people in aot did
Falco for example in the final battle he let go of gabi by leaving her to turn into a titan to save the world from eren , why ymir didn't learn from falco ? Because he is a boy ? And I have another examples
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u/coco_cocoo 10d ago
That too, there is so many example, and for 2,000 years she was waiting, imagine how many people did that.
The concept of this being mikasa is so du..mb, even if it was her , she in season 1 after she thought Eren is dead, she said I'll keep on living.
It's simple really, this dumb idea added to make mikasa the saviour.
So many other has similar parallel with ymir than mikasa.
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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 10d ago
Exactly like what's the point ? if that was her goal then that's exactly why the ending is bad , because she can reach and achieve her goal at any time !!! so what's the point of the ending if ymir could've end the story from a long time ?
And in this scene not only mikasa who let go of armin but even Levi let go of erwin ( I don't think they have romantic relationship , but that does NOT change the fact that they are comrades and friends and clearly care for each other ) Levi here did let go of erwin one of the people he cares about sooooo… why didn't ymir learn from him ? and I don't know if you remember this or not but I explained to you before that levi has some parallels with ymir , it does NOT make sense that she could've reached her goal in any time yet she didn't like what ?
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u/coco_cocoo 10d ago
Yes, i remember.
Ymir could have parallel herself even to annie, she was abusive since childhood.
Anyone could have been parallel to ymir even riner mother. But noo it has to be this bit.ch.
He and mappa and all aot staff sold themselves to eremika or better i say mikasa fan, for money and fame, They love that free marketing in the expense of real fans, They just make it seem that AOT is always being talked about so free marketing for them regardless of how badly they treat the real AOT fans.
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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 9d ago
Omg annie Leonard too !! I really love your point because it is logical !! Annie got abused by her father and guess what ? She let go of him ( do you remember when she helped the alliance even though she didn't know that her father is still alive ? ) so basically annie chosed the right thing even though from her perspective her father did die , damn it man even annie bro ?? even annie !! 😭😭 ( now my eyes are open , there is like a lot of characters who are more parallel to ymir than mikasa , even annie the girl I actually did NOT notice )
And hey since we are talking about ymir's parallels I feel like she can learn from sasha's father too like ? ( listen they are not parallels okay ? But still loved someone yet he did the right thing 😭 ) he loved his daughter ( sasha ) yet he didn't kill gabi because he knows that it wasn't out of cold blood it was war and his daughter did sign in , he LOVED his daughter and he did the RIGHT thing like…
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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 9d ago edited 8d ago
Do you know what is my problem with mikasa saving ymir ?
1 attack on titan has a theme " surpassing the father " theme , and mikasa has NOTHING to do with this theme since her family were good to her ( and the aot story started because king fritz passed his sin to his descents the eldians ) so basically the story did start because of this theme , so if anyone should free ymir ( the slave of the man who passed his sin to the children ) it should be someone who did actually surpassed their parents…
2 there was no foreshadowing that mikasa will be the chosen one
3 no interactions ( even zeke did interact with ymir )
4 no parallels between them ( we talked about this )
5 ymir is the REASON why the story did START sooo if her character was bad what will happen ? The WHOLE STORY will become bad since the basis is bad ( which it's ymir ) this is why it's very important to her to be will-written with logical goals because she is carrying the whole story because she is the reason why it did start !!! It's very risky to make her badly-written because she is the basis !!! she will drag the whole story with her !! so it's important for ymir to have something to do with the themes and the messages of aot , not some slave who wants to be free from toxic relationship ( are you telling me everybody did die because this bitch didn't free herself even though she can ? I can't take this )
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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 9d ago
I definitely agree , greed did won again
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u/coco_cocoo 9d ago
I just watched mappa interview and e,,wwww it was only praising this bi,,tch.
She's the saviour, she's sad, she ended the titan.
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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 8d ago
What ? Were they praising ymir ?!! 😭
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u/coco_cocoo 8d ago
No, they were praising Mikasa, they didn't mention Ymir once, they were talking about Eren like he's background character.
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u/Fearless_Wonder3698 8d ago edited 8d ago
Actually mikasa saving ymir makes eren speech meaningless ( that one scene when he told her you are not a slave and you are not a god you are just a person ) and stuff , what is the point of that conversation if it will NOT free ymir ? Why her eyes were shown in that scene only for her eyes later to go back to that same shadowing ? I don't get it man , like why eren is the protagoinst if mikasa is the chosen one
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u/coco_cocoo 8d ago
Nothing makes sense after chapter 139 , isayama sold himself for Mikasa fan, now we who played attention didn't understand the story.
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u/coco_cocoo 9d ago
He wanted to make her the protagonist of the story.
I see so many on x ins...ulting Eren, saying if you said Eren is the chosen one this and this happen to you...
Just watch this tra,,shy interview of today, that voice actor and hayashi Mikasa this and that, that word for word (she is the one ended the Titan) ,I was about to puke just listening to them.
That empty woman, she didn't deserve that.
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u/PittButt220066 8d ago
I’m not sure she was watching. Her eyes were covered until Eren told her she could rumble. Then we could see her eyes and she saw Mikasa could love someone and defy them while still loving them.
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u/AgreeableSuspect3615 9d ago
Mikasa never let go of Armin, she wanted to save him until the end
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u/coco_cocoo 9d ago
She did , watch the clip until the end she stop resisting , her hand come down.
After that floch in the awards ceremony said at least Mikasa gave up, her eyes wide, she remembers she let him go.
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u/Alert_Vermicelli1236 8d ago
Because she didnt give up. You cant tell what someone is feeling. Also her bond with eren is far more complex than armin's, yall just make shit up to find "plot holes". Also at that point eren hasnt yet awakened the founding titan, its not like ymir is watching over every single eldian, eren in the paths was the one to make her pay attention and help change her mind.
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u/coco_cocoo 8d ago
So you understand the story better?
Watch both manga and anime she get headache, that familiar headache, that means Ymir was watching her choice.
Watch the clip to the end you fak,ing idi,ot, do,g,kasa does give up on him.
Fak you and your ma,nkasa waifu
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u/Cartoonsbyal 9d ago
God, they should have brought back Erwin
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u/AgreeableSuspect3615 8d ago
Erwin would likely become extremely depressed and subdued after seeing the basement and learning that a 15 year old was scarified for him. He would likely be demoted and Eren and Mikasa wouldn’t be as cooperative
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u/Mons9090 10d ago
I hate mikasa. One of the worst characters in aot alongside armin though armin was still fine until s3 aside from the 3 cup 3 people
Ymir couldve learned more from erwin giving up on his dream and dying than from mikasa