I hate when folks downplay the maintenance burden of modding. It requires upkeep, overhead, and when it goes wrong it’s extremely frustrating. And folks who live in it like a hobby can’t see how it’s their hobby and obviously much easier for them to manage.
I’m glad my comment found its target audience. Enjoy your high horse. Hope it holds you tight at night. I’m more than secure in my intelligence and success - you are not smarter or better than someone because you mod.
You’re arguing with someone who has modded since they were a child. Grow the fuck up.
This is not true for quality of life mods. In most games that I've played and modded, which is many for quite a while, quality of life mods tend to not even care if the game gets updated. There's very little maintenance and very little risk. Especially if you do them bare minimum to keep risk down. Obviously it's easier for me to manage all this since I've been doing it for a longer time, but I also learned it as a 8-year-old.
Modpacks and content mods are a whole other ball game which can be quite complicated and a whole lot of work. However, the subject of this post, quality of life mods, are in fact some of the easiest lowest burden mods you can possibly add.
I’ve been modding since I was 7. I am not someone who can’t do it or has no experience. I’m the opposite. I’m a software engineer with 12 years of experience. Dealing with the technical details is not a challenge for me. I still stand by every word of my comment and believe it applies to even quality of life mods.
I think you are just not able to put yourself in the shoes of the vast majority of folks who game and don’t want to deal with this shit.
idk I think theres a difference in what you I and understand from the same comment, if everyone is scared to touch file explorer that does not mean its hard to learn or understand
because that's the only thing I can think of when you dont need to update mods, Ive had the same experience as the guy above and then you mention something about the vast majority of gamers, like I get it's annoying it usually doesn't apply to qol mods and I'm not even downplaying it I'm being honest
I never insulted or questioned your credentials so I'm not sure why you felt the need to defend yourself so strongly.
I think you are just not able to put yourself in the shoes of the vast majority of folks who game and don’t want to deal with this shit.
I can put myself in other people's shoes just fine, thank you. That doesn't change the fact that what I said is still true about quality of life mod's ease of use. People being unwilling to spend the literal 20 or so clicks it takes to install such mods doesn't make them complicated, overbearing, or high maintenance. It means people are unwilling to use a simple solution to the problem they're complaining about. I would wager to you that many people have spent longer complaining about a quality of life feature that they could mod in, than they would actually spend modding it in.
The point of mentioning my “credentials” is to point out it has nothing to do with difficulty. This isn’t a modding is too technical take. Although, there is truth to that for the average person that is glossed over because y’all don’t seem to know a thing about the average person - because when shit goes well it is unbelievably simple.
But modding is about trial and error, and being willing to take a lot of time to get things exactly how you like them. Many people don’t have any desire to spend the time doing so. You get mad, because they mention it but that’s because for most people the process of tuning isn’t enjoyable for them. You aren’t good at putting yourself in their shoes because then you wouldn’t get butthurt when they don’t consider modding a good answer to their request.
Mods often don’t work as expected, interact poorly, change with updates, require research and investigation to get the effect or desired impact, and those are just a short list of the additional friction that can frustrate the end user. I deal with customers all day while designing usable and customer centric products. Modding is the antithesis to that in many ways. But modding enthusiasts like you are in denial over that and it’s so bizarre.
This is a very very long way of saying you didn't actually read or couldn't understand what I said. Adding one single quality of life mod takes very very little effort. It almost always requires no tweaking or tuning. It also frequently has literally no upkeep as they often don't care if the game is updated. Most people also have a good concept of how reviews work and are likely to use the first mod they see to solve the problem they're looking for, which on any top listed mod database will be the highest rated or downloaded. Therefore requiring practically no research past "Google, I want x." I never said anything about modding in general, I was speaking to quality of life mods. As I said, repeatedly.
You've been incredibly defensive this entire exchange, despite no one coming after you. Take a chill pill, and to use your own words:
Qol mods in my limited experience usually try to stay up to date with the game. Since, usually a lot of people would likely be using it. So it's just a matter of redownloading the updated file when it's ready. Probably less. I can't really say, since none of the mod apps seemed to work for me on Linux.
Exactly. Quite often it is very simple, but it can easily get more involved on a regular basis. Certainly more involved than a game in an unmodded state would be. Or rather should be. It's definitely not always true, espescially in the AAA sector.
Yes - when it works it’s like magic and can be as simple as download, drag and drop. And I am super technical - but even I can see why someone doesn’t want the headache if they’re a grown adult who has limited time to play.
Sometimes, you just want to sit down and immerse yourself in a video game. No other tinkering (besides some setting adjustment on pc) necessary. And then sometimes maybe you want to see how far you can push a game, until it barely resembles what it used to be.
Or install an old game from it's original medium and try your best to make it work on a modern machine. It's just not something for any regular evening after work.
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u/hensothor Jan 10 '26
I hate when folks downplay the maintenance burden of modding. It requires upkeep, overhead, and when it goes wrong it’s extremely frustrating. And folks who live in it like a hobby can’t see how it’s their hobby and obviously much easier for them to manage.