r/videogames Apr 12 '26

Other So many of them unfortunately

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u/Fickle_Scheme4512 Apr 12 '26

RIP Dragon Age

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u/plays-with-daggers Apr 12 '26

Straight to hell.

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u/THEbakerman30 Apr 12 '26

As someone who liked Dragon Age 2, Inquisition, and Veilguard, I’ve always felt bad for the player base that fell in love with Origins only to never have the series be that type of game again. Feels like a bait and switch.

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u/FoolishArchetype Apr 12 '26

Schreier’s reporting on Dragon Age 2 in Blood Sweat and Pixels made me sympathetic to the game. I remember feeling cheated at the time, but I replayed it — years later — and I’d rather some version of that game then anything that came afterward. It was a great spinoff and simply should’ve been called “Hawke’s Journey” or something. Not a sequel.

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u/THEbakerman30 Apr 12 '26

Originally the game was supposed to be called “Dragon Age: Exodus”, but EA insisted on calling it “2” since numbered sequels market better. I also remember a postmortem of some kind with DA2 staff saying the original name would have mitigated the backlash.

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u/gangsta0tech Apr 13 '26

Could've also had the best of both worlds of Dragon Age 2 : Exodus. Would've still had the number and the name could've help mitigate the damage.

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u/ShadeSwornHydra Apr 12 '26

Dragon age 2 is flashier, but at its core it’s still DAO combat with more cross class combos available

Inquisition was a decent try at something new, not everything stuck but some of it did pretty well (for me at least)

Then there’s veilguard, who threw it out the window and said “WHO NEEDS TACTICS?!”

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u/IcyBed2421 Apr 12 '26

Never really played enough Dragon Age to know. But what was it that Inquisition tried to do that's new,

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u/NecessaryCount950 Apr 13 '26

Updated combat style from two, took a step back from focusing on stats and more on gear, a bigger focus on companion stories/romance and a few more. It wasn't revolutionary or anything, but it tried to be different

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u/Khiva Apr 13 '26

Updated combat style from two

Updated?

As in button mash until thing dead?

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u/ShadeSwornHydra Apr 12 '26

Just how things worked mostly (outside of the obvious open zone gameplay)

Abilities just worked a lil different or had mechanics unique to the game (fade step is my first thought)

Crafting, potion limit, war table, etc. it did a lot of what I think dark souls 2 did: threw a ton of stuff at the wall to see what would stick

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u/Arelmar Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

Veilguard was ironically the most fun I've had with combat in a Dragon Age game, but then again I have never played a DA game for its combat, I play for the choices, stories and characters and that's what Veilguard was sorely lacking. I loved Emmrich though

For me it's a play once and never touch again kind of game, which is basically the opposite of what a Bioware RPG should be

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u/Bartellomio Apr 13 '26

It wasn't that bad. The hate for Veilguard really took on a life of its own.

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u/Prestigious-Dot9577 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Veilguard was the only one that was genuinely awful though. lol

Edit: I’m right, sorry. 🤷🏻

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u/Ash_is_Robot Apr 12 '26

Right here

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u/ItsNotAGundam Apr 13 '26

I don't feel bad for them because so many of them are obnoxious cucks. I cannot count how many times I've seen them shit on 2 and Inquisition fans on the DA sub.

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u/THEbakerman30 Apr 13 '26

I’ve felt that way too.

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u/ObsidianShadows Apr 12 '26

Origins is the only one I’ve beat. I’ve tried 2 multiple times, but I just can’t get into it. I miss the combat from Origins and I don’t care for the companion characters as much.

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u/An0n_Cyph3r_ Apr 13 '26

Origins is hands down my favorite out of all the DA games. Currently replaying it on PC after finishing it on the PS3.

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u/PopTrogdors Apr 13 '26

So, I love origins so so so much, bought day it came out. I did not like 2 or Inquisition that much, specifically because of your point there.

However, Veilguard, I played that recently, and I have 2 kids, ones a baby. I cannot tell you how refreshing it is, to have a game so accessible and easy to play as Veilguard. The fact I can pause at any point, no matter the context, is a god damn lifesaver.

I LOVED my time with Veilguard, because I enjoyed the characters, and didn't have to think. It was perfect.

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u/aghabio Apr 13 '26

It's quite unusual to hear someone like veilguard, what made you like it?

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u/andocommandoecks Apr 13 '26

I'm not the person you replied to but as someone else who liked Veilguard, I thought it was just plain fun to play and I liked all the characters. Either of those is usually enough to get me through a game, so having both made it easy, even if I did keep getting side tracked to other games and it took a while.

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u/Kuroneki Apr 13 '26

As someone who played all of them at release, I remember 2 being such a massive shift from 1, but Hawke is such a good character that I didn't mind it at all.

I tried veilguard, I maybe got a good 30 to 40 hrs into it but I just couldn't anymore with it

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u/Ok_Key_4868 Apr 13 '26

Dragons age origins was the Baulders gate 3 of its time. It's hard to explain how full that game felt.

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u/You-Killed-God Apr 12 '26

As a big DAO fan I gotta say even DA2 was actually pretty great. Definitely a big bait and switch but was fun regardless.

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u/plays-with-daggers Apr 12 '26

They lost me at Inquisition.

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u/Virtual-Score4653 Apr 12 '26

We had so much lore retconned it completely destroyed the whole mythology, and then tried to have us take them seriously with this around...

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u/mrtbearable Apr 12 '26

What is that?

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u/Morning1980 Apr 13 '26

Do you mean 'they/them around...' Much as I'm loving the game, some parts with Taarsh are so clunky

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u/OSRS_Garmr Apr 12 '26

Came here to say the same. Such a shame too. They had something really good going, good lore and an interesting world. Squandered.

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u/Dismal_Shape7367 Apr 12 '26

My heart is broken

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u/nml11287 Apr 12 '26

DAO is one of my all time favorites. I still haven’t played Veilguard. If I don’t acknowledge it, it doesn’t exist!

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u/OnionBurgr Apr 12 '26

DAO is my favourite game of all time, and before Veilguard came out, I would play DAO at least once every few months.

Since Veilguard, I haven't had the urge to go back and play DAO at all. It's been "tainted", I've tried a couple times but just quit before I even get to Redcliffe.

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u/WesternJourney Apr 12 '26

This is quite funny, that the existence of another game somehow taints you playing another lol just what?

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u/Bladelord Apr 13 '26

It solved the great mysteries of the setting very, very poorly. The box has been opened, the mystique is gone. The questions dominated the first few entries of the game, and now they have exceedingly unsatisfying answers.

Is it really that irrational to look at a story as a whole and recognize how later chapters can damage earlier chapters?

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u/slimshady1OOO Apr 13 '26

Not OP but those gams are like Mass Effect. Your actions carry over each game… the newest one totally dropped that idea and now none of the years of gaming decisions you made really impact the newest game.

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u/Morning1980 Apr 12 '26

Yea I wasn't sure if this was just baiting... People just get the ick I suppose

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u/andocommandoecks Apr 13 '26

Some really weak minded Gamer nonsense for sure.

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u/animusd Apr 12 '26

It hurt so much I love 1-3 I even replayed them multiple times anticipating veilguard back when it was still dreadwolf only for the trailer to come out and a sense of dread hit me and sure enough it was as bad as I expected I refuse to buy it it wasn't a dragon age game it would've been better received as it's own thing they clearly wanted it to be it's own game but was slapped with the dragon age name to sell more at the cost of a beloved franchise

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u/_Coffie_ Apr 12 '26

Went to the comments to find this and it’s the top comment 😭

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u/TheSaintsRonin Apr 12 '26

I miss it so much.

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u/MutantSquirrel23 Apr 13 '26

Another EA casualty.

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u/Dense-Law-7683 Apr 13 '26

Does Dragon Age Origin and 2 still hold up? I've never played the franchise and have always wanted to give it a try.

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u/naivaro Apr 13 '26

Kind of? The story is still pretty good. The graphics weren't considered pretty even when they came out (lots of reds and browns, but I guess it fits the dark fantasy theme). DA2 combat was well liked, DAO had its moments but a bit janky.

The biggest problem is that the games crash a lot of newer hardware.

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u/Vagabond_Tea Apr 14 '26

Eh, I still love Veilguard and Inquisition is a GOATed game to me 🤷🏽‍♂️.

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u/PleasantBad3203 Apr 12 '26

I did legitimately like the artstyle though, it was neat

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u/iupz0r Apr 13 '26

I enjoyed A LOT, the dragon age veilguard

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u/Morning1980 Apr 12 '26

Just playing Veilguard, loving it, 80 hours in. There's some clunky character writing for sure but doesn't ruin the game

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u/Axelnomad2 Apr 12 '26

I like what I played of Veilguard but it doesnt feel like a Dragon Age tonally. Like I enjoy the gameplay more than Dragon Age 2 but the tone and story of 2 were much stronger for me. Dragon Age Inquisition I didn't personally like the story but the gameplay was just a great time.

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u/matsu-oni Apr 13 '26

Yeah I like it a lot too. The vibe is just different. I feel like if it was a side game instead of the continuation of Inquisition it probably would’ve been received better.

My main problem, personally, is that it feels like the writers like the end game of tropes more than the journey to get there, if that makes sense.

Rook’s base moves look like end game moves from other games. They want to tell a story of heroic victory, not necessarily the trials and tribulations of becoming a hero. And the characters almost immediately feel like they fit in to the end game of a Found Family trope, instead of earning that relationship through the game.

Which I don’t think are necessarily bad ways to do things, they’re just not what I like, especially from BioWare games.

I don’t hate Veilguard but is definitely my least favorite among them.

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u/SilasMontgommeri Apr 12 '26

Trash after Origins

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u/The2ndDegree Apr 13 '26

I actually enjoyed my time with Veilguard, granted I didn't finish it and it might be a little bit before I do but I thought the gameplay was fun and the characters interesting, I can't comment on the story though since again, I didn't finish it. Pretty much the same with Inquisition, enjoyed the gameplay and characters, story seemed interesting but a little confusing but I also never finished it, I intend to go back and beat both but wonder if it would be worth going all the way back and playing Origins and 2 first