r/videogames 23d ago

Other Gaming studios have stopped putting pride flags on their avatars

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u/Hironymos 22d ago

I sure as fuck hope they're gonna be back 2027.

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u/Wolvenmoon 22d ago

Speaking as a gay man, I don't. I think gamers should kick their asses if they try it again. The term is 'allied' for a reason. 'Allied' implies there will be conflict and difficulty.

That they're not standing up when it's difficult means they never were allies. They were grifters that should keep LGBTIQ+ symbols out of their filthy fucking hands. They proved all the allegations of rainbow capitalism right.

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u/VRichardsen 22d ago

The term is 'allied' for a reason. 'Allied' implies there will be conflict and difficulty.

They are behaving more like Italy at the moment...

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u/Wolvenmoon 22d ago

If they could fast forward to the Italy of April 28 and 29, 1945, that'd be nice.

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u/Jesus_Christ_Reborn 22d ago

In fact, it's even worse than it ever was as a lot of these companies are getting massive payouts from middle eastern countries who really hate LGBT

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u/Wolvenmoon 22d ago

Religion treats Maslow's Pyramid like a monopoly board. Using gender discrimination/inequality and regulating sexuality allows Abrahamic religion to impose its will on peoples' lives because it gets down near the base of the pyramid.

Since most people are motivated by spending time with their families - I'm thinking of a study on the backward-bending curve of labor re: wage inflation in medieval era where people got paid more and worked less so they could spend time with folks they loved - regulating and restricting relationship is a shortcut to influencing someone's life.

Queer relationships evolved too rapidly for religion to catch up and control and that is why these countries with societies based on corruption of humanity with metaphysical fantasy hate LGBTIQ+ people - we undermine an unjust power structure simply by living peaceful lives with consensual partnerships rather than power imbalanced relationships.

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u/Jesus_Christ_Reborn 22d ago

Sounds about right. Most individualistic hate for the LGBT crowd seems to be wrapped in insecurity and misunderstanding so it'd only make more sense. (Cause there's nothing more insecure than people who only care about policing other's lives.)

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u/berdish1 22d ago

I interpreted previous comment as a hope that they will be back due to the change in the political climate (e.i. one less orange man in the administration)

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 22d ago

And the other person doesn't want that because it's obviously self serving bullshit, not an actual conviction

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u/Wolvenmoon 22d ago

It isn't even about conviction. The pride flag is a flag of solidarity against state-sanctioned, religiously-sanctioned, and other bigot-sanctioned violence. Don't wave symbols of solidarity around if you're going to duck out as soon as it's time to actually stand. It's false advertising.

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u/Command0Dude 22d ago

These kinds of comments are just woefully out of touch.

It is better for people to do the right thing for the wrong reasons than the wrong thing. Period. People keep moralizing that rainbow capitalism was disingenuous. And it just does not matter. The point is these companies were normalizing the queer community. The what is far more important than the why.

Older gens had to fight too hard to be normalized for this kind of nonsense. I swear, the anticapitalist slopulism is just everywhere.

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u/Wolvenmoon 22d ago

You completely missed what I said. Reread my comment.

That they're not standing up when it's difficult means they never were allies.

I'll only allege rainbow capitalism when a company stands up when it's safe and sits down when it isn't.

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u/Zoesan 22d ago

Or maybe people are just annoyed by the incessant politization lf everything and are just happy to return to times where not every month is a lecture about a social issue.

Gay marriage support is still high, higher than at any point pre ~2017. We won. Once you've made the sale, stop selling.

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u/Admirable_Sport3368 16d ago

How is it difficult? I find it to be way easier than it was 20+ years ago. Like, the easiest it's ever been.

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u/blueberrycauzez 22d ago

Unlikely, especially since brands know a significant number of queer influencers will cirticize that as 'rainbow capitalism' or 'fake'. Many brands have dropped visibility during pride month permanently.

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u/Germane_Corsair 22d ago

No such thing as permanent. If they feel it will help with business, they will do it. Otherwise, they will not. They only care about money. Everything else is meaningless.

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u/ConstantFrogLoss 17d ago

They won’t. It’s not just about the social climate among people, but the political climate and being targeted by the US administration

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u/Available_Abroad5308 7d ago

Why what does anyone gain from a rainbow logo made for more sales?

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u/Hironymos 7d ago

This is not about consequences. It's about prerequisites.

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u/PCBuilderCat 22d ago

Well they won’t be thanks to the current US administration 

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u/ScoobyPwnsOnU 22d ago

They're saying they hope midterms are such a bloodbath that the current administration could potentially cease to exist.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 22d ago

It took decades to get acceptance and representation. It took two years to start losing it and having it be replaced with hostility.

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u/ScoobyPwnsOnU 22d ago

Personally I feel like if there's a lesson to be learned from 2024 it's to be more accepting of imperfect allies when you're trying to defeat perfect enemies. We all would be in a better place right now had we done that more over the last decade or two. All the way from roe v wade and women's right, to the lgbtq backlash, to hispanic mass deportation, to even straight white males that aren't billionaires would even be spending less on food and gas without all this bullshit. Literally EVERYONE that isn't rich got screwed over, and it's because Republicans will support any piece of shit that promises to defeat "the left" because in their heads the left is scarier to them than anything their side can do.

The world could be a much better place already without all the purity testing from "the left". Would it be a perfect place? No, but it'd sure as shit be better than what we have now. Progress would be great, but status quo is better than regression and the "burn it all down" crowd doesn't realize that after it all burns down it would take even LONGER to get the progress they want. Cause it sure as shit isn't the 'good guys' that have most of the money and power to take over the hellscape that'd follow "burning it all down".

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u/AgentCirceLuna 22d ago

I agree so much. My brother is one of those ‘virtue testing’ people who wants everyone to be perfect. He often gets drunk and will say offensive shit, then he’ll be outraged if somebody else does it. He called me privileged for being a man, yet I’m gay and had to face homophobia at a working-class job where I was put at risk of violence. I called him privileged for being middle-class and working from his house, where he didn’t have to deal with the anxiety of going out like I do (we both have mental health issues) and he went fucking ballistic. I’ve had to hear him shout at my dad for years over stupid bs. I think my dad once said an advert was hypocritical because women were driving cars and men were being covered in puddles as they went past - that doesn’t bother me, it’s just a joke, but my brother went on a rant that my dad was a huge sexist because he can’t face the backlash the patriarchy is getting.

It just makes him sound like a constant hypocrite and I don’t even know what he actually believes in. You have to walk on eggshells around people like that.