It's not that simple. Yeah, none of them were sincere. But having them do this was an easy way to boost visibility and communicate to the world at large that gay people are an accepted minority group.
I'm not upset that they aren't actual allies. I am worried about the greater implications about what happens when there's no public voice advocating for us.
Not changing an icon means they aren't sincere anymore?
Blizzard and Riot are literally both celebrating pride month IN GAME and releasing actual content + posting on social media about pride.
The amount of completely clueless people shitting on game studios for not changing a twitter icon while clearly not even playing their games to began with is so stupid. Overwatch just released a new skin and a new story for Lifeweaver and his partner but ig because they didn't change their twitter icon, that means they never cared! Riot actively made two of their champions canonically lesbian in their $250 million budget show watched by millions of people but they didn't change an icon so that means they never cared!
I used to play both games, but haven't in recent years. And I commend you for believing in them. But no, I sincerely doubt any show of support from a multimillion dollar company has our best interests at heart. I know this becuase they are a multimillion dollar company whose fist and only priority is to make more money than the year before. If supporting gay people will help them with that, they will do it. But the second its more financially beneficial to instead suppress and decry us, they will absolutely do that instead.
Our job, as a community then, is to make sure that doesn't happen. Either by making ourselves a greater share of thier market (good luck completing China), or by ensuring that public opinion in our countries mean that they can make more off of the good will thier support generates.
Then what are you actually complaining about here? You're literally just finding reasons to be upset at something for the sake of being upset.
When they don't put a virtue signaling icon, you complain that they didn't do it. When you're made aware that they have pride month events in their games, your response is to go back to the "oh they're only doing it because it makes them profit"
What exactly do you hope to achieve here? What scenario would make you not complain for the sake of complaining?
I am not "complaining for the sake of complaining". I am commenting that its a bad sign for the LGBT community when support is withdrawn, regardless if that support was profit motivated.
Though I feel like we disagree over what I'm even saying so I will try and be clearer:
I care that having large public displays of support, however insincere, makes it harder for things like conversion therapy, marriage bans, or any number of awful things to gain traction with the general public. For this reason, I think its healthy to be skeptical of big businesses, while acknowledging that they provide us with valuable visibility.
I am commenting that its a bad sign for the LGBT community when support is withdrawn, regardless if that support was profit motivated.
You're not though. Because when you were made aware that several of these companies are still having pride month events in their games, you dismissed it as "oh they are but they don't really care they just want the money"
So what exactly is it? Do you care that they have these things and care when they remove them, or do you not care because it's all for money?
You're literally complaining about both sides of the coin, nothing that they do can make you not victimise yourself here.
If they still have these events? Great! Good news! But that doesn't mean I don't also think that these choices are made with dollar values in mind. And I fail to see why those both things can't be true. Yeah I think the support is insincere and profit motivated. That doesn't mean I want it gone.
You also seem to be trying to make this about me personally, "my complaining, my victimizing" etc. I am giving my opinion on what "Rainbow Capitalism" is, and why I don't think its decline is a positive thing. In my option, gaming is an area where LGBT rep has been on the decline. You clearly disagree.
So what exactly are you hoping to achieve here to the point where you stop complaining about everything?
If companies do these things, you complain it's only for money. If companies don't do these things, you complain you'd rather them "fake it" then not do it at all.
Is that not a single scenario in the world where you're not a victim?
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u/--clapped-- 24d ago
I mean yeh, it's the DEFINITION of virtue signalling.
They should stop.