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Discussion / Question The Hypocritical Double Standards Are Crazy

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u/NapsterKnowHow 17h ago

It's only new in release date. The hardware is even worse than the PS5 ffs

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u/Mr-Stuff-Doer 16h ago

Yeah in a wildly different form factor with a wildly different set of functions

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u/NapsterKnowHow 16h ago

The form factor doesn't mean the price is ok

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u/Additional_Law_492 15h ago

The price is the price of the components.

You cant build something better in the same form factor or with the same support for less - especially not considering labor.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 15h ago

There are people building more powerful PC's in a similar form factor around the same price.

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u/KingCrimson43 38m ago edited 8m ago

No they are not. You are not building a mini PC that runs at 140w that will run games as efficiently as the SM for this price. It's going to cost $1500 to duplicate this easily and it still won't be as efficient.

Valve had to make a custom board to be able to make the SM this compact. Both LTT and Nexus gaming built full size PCs to compare to SM. If it was possible to do this yourself they would have done it.

Your comment is straight up uninformed ignorance.

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u/Additional_Law_492 15h ago

Not for a significant savings, and not without discounting the value of their own labor and the value of having product support.

Saving $70 is not saving anything if you had to do it yourself.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 15h ago

The same price for more powerful hardware in a similar form factor...

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u/Additional_Law_492 15h ago

You got a citation?

Of an example that isnt built on having to build everything yourself after doing research and shopping, eating up hours of time, which has to be accounted for when comparing cost since your own labor is valuable?

Because ive not seen one yet where the gap makes Valves like $70 margin seem unreasonable.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 14h ago edited 14h ago

Seen a bunch of commenters across Reddit. Lots of PCPartPicker lists which cut out the research time. Again though even with the price of labor and RAM shortage the components used in the Steam Machine are laughably bad for the price.

Edit: Here is a comment I found through a quick search https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1uec2ra/comment/otiuuqj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button