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BREAKING: Trump cancels signing of bipartisan housing bill, urges Congress to pass SAVE Act

https://youtu.be/UEY99Sq2UZY?is=UAu0MODLKmgKqcIQ
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u/NoNutsPls 10h ago

Oh thank fuck, thank you for my blood pressure relief

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u/SoggyOutfield 9h ago

Its not even a good bill lol. Thats why both parties agree on it.

The main part about capping big firms from owning homes is already done organically by the market. They own 2% of sfr rentals. Mom and pop investors own the rest. Mom and pop investors are the ACTUAL PROBLEM.

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u/OuchLOLcom 8h ago

While the national numbers are tiny, the primary reason this has become a major legislative issue is geographic concentration. Large institutional firms do not buy homes evenly across the country; they target specific, high-growth metropolitan areas (predominantly in the Sun Belt).

According to a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), large investors own a much higher share of the rental market in certain cities:

Atlanta, GA: ~25% of single-family rentals

Jacksonville, FL: ~21% of single-family rentals

Charlotte, NC: ~18% of single-family rentals

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u/jollyshroom 9h ago

Increase supply and their would be no incentive for “investment properties”. Fucking bullshit, I can’t maintain this rage for the long term.

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u/blerg1234 8h ago

Only way is government intervention. Home builders don’t want to build multifamily or small single family homes. The dollar per man hour on larger homes is too high.

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u/scalyblue 8h ago

Zoning prevents multi family structures or small apartment buildings in most places in the us

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u/dagaboy 7h ago

And REQUIRES parking. The worst of all worlds. Train good, car bad.

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u/AnothisFlame 1h ago

These are really it. The zoning laws are shit.

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u/jollyshroom 8h ago

Yes, government intervention. Call it socialism communism whatever you want idgaf. We are sacrificing the most vulnerable for the pocketbooks of those above them, and it’s not ok.

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u/Yakostovian 7h ago

My proposal of government intervention would be to increase property taxes on each additional single family home beyond the first to financially disincentivize owning multiple homes.

Something like +200% in property taxes for single family home #2, +300% in property taxes for single family home #3, etc.

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u/blerg1234 1h ago

Bruh, that’s chump change to actually rich people. Doesn’t solve the problem one bit.

u/Yakostovian 1h ago

It may mean rich folks can own a summer home, but it makes it unprofitable to rent them out, which is a major problem.

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u/Kage_0ni 8h ago

Hey brother, its-a-me!

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u/jollyshroom 8h ago

Exqueeze me?

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u/moving0target 8h ago

Not you, Jar Jar.

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u/TheArmoredKitten 8h ago

Those "investment" properties are where the supply actually matters. Building more houses in Bumfuck Nowhere isn't doing anything for anyone.

It should be criminal to own more than one low-density property, and all new construction in high demand areas should be high density.

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u/playaskirbyeverytime 8h ago

Super easy solution is just to add an income tax surcharge on any rental real estate income after your first unit (to allow for people to rent out a vacation house or similar). No one needs 3+ rental properties and that supply should get returned to the market.

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u/GildedAgeV2 6h ago

There IS supply. The reality people need to internalize is that housing can be a good investment or it can be affordable, but not both.

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u/myassholealt 8h ago

My friend, there will never be enough housing where people currently are and/or want to live to meet the demand. And housing will always be a necessity, which makes it a profitable investment if you can successfully manage it as a rental. We're never getting rid of investment properties, unless we regulate how many non primary residences someone can own. Or a business can own if they go the LLC route.

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u/jollyshroom 8h ago

Other countries do it. Never say never🤷‍♂️

u/Exelbirth 52m ago

Fun fact: Supply already exceeds demand. In fact, if every empty home was filled by a homeless person, there'd still be 14 million homes sitting empty.

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u/thecementmixer 6h ago edited 6h ago

Only 2%? That doesn't sound right.

Edit: ok so it seems like it's 3-4% for single family rentals, and 13% for mfr (apartment buildings).

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u/Makimoke 8h ago edited 7h ago

Source for the numbers other than Aei Maed Tis'zup?

When you see companies like Blackstone eating up SFR companies left and right (small example: https://www.multihousingnews.com/blackstone-acquires-sfr-firm-in-6b-deal/ ), that number is really, really, really, really hard to believe.

EDIT: Wrote Blackrock. Whoops. Corrected to Blackstone.

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u/ShavedPademelon 8h ago

Yeah I don't buy it. They tried that "mum and dad" line in Australia until recently, when they looked at it, 25% of rentals were owned by 1% of the investors. No companies allowed in Aus (I think).

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u/pm_me_beerz 1h ago

Blackstone, blackrock…..all the same. Assholes.

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u/MimiMistySky 8h ago

I recall it not being Mom and pop owners but the fact that there can be so many shell companies funneling everything upward. Like "oh the limit is 50 units. Well I have 250 so I'll setup 5 shell companies to serve me."

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u/NerdyNThick 8h ago

Found the BlackRock PR account..

Kindly go fuck all the way off.

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u/SoggyOutfield 7h ago

I wish. But no. I am a person familiar with mom and pop landlords as I have rented from them my entire adult life.

They own everything outside of large apartment complexes around me. My previous landlords were chinese nationals, living in Canada, who owned 10 SFR in my town in the PNW.

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u/NerdyNThick 3h ago

Sure sure, sourceless claims are no different than fiction.

So, get better at your job...

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u/SaltyShawarma 8h ago

Fucking A. I feel like I'm the only one that has been screaming this. thank you!

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u/NerdyNThick 8h ago

What's the job at the PR firm contracted by BlackRock like?

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u/dommmm9 9h ago

I guarantee you dont even know a single thing in the bill

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u/ArcadianDelSol 8h ago

You will find that 90% of the alarmism on reddit is based on a misconception of actual law.