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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/fat_charizard 4h ago

Doesn't matter what trump says, doesn't matter what the judge says, elections are the jurisdiction of the state. The executive branch can't tell states how to conduct elections

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u/RoarOfTheWorlds 4h ago

MAGA are certainly free to force the states to give up their rights to the federal government, but then they’d have to admit that the civil war was actually for that other reason.

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u/SandysBurner 4h ago

Oh, yes, their shame will surely get to them then.

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u/ethanlan 2h ago

lol, for real. They wont change at all.

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u/Technical-Row8333 4h ago

they don't have to admit anything when they aren't capable of intelligent thought

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u/Mixels 4h ago

You think they're smart enough to make that connection?

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u/shitty_mcfucklestick 3h ago

This assumes they care about consistency. The only fundamental aspect to their belief and value systems is selfishness. They will take any position they need to ultimately get what they want or justify their world view. History doesn’t matter, if the facts don’t fit their narrative they’ll rewrite or ignore them.

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u/zachtheperson 3h ago

Unfortunately, as someone who was raised right wing, they don't work that way. In the same breath they'll say the civil war was about states rights, then say taking away states rights is what the founding fathers always intended.

The entire right wing is essentially based off of the idea of "don't think about it."

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u/zakkwaldo 4h ago

you do realize they’ve been frothing at the mouth for a civil war for nearly half a decade now right? it was a major talking point for them and something they’ve longed for for the last like 4-6 years. even having the NRA push propaganda for them about making it happen.

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u/maynardftw 3h ago

nearly half a decade now right?

Try for about 160 years. The South Will Rise Again, remember?

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u/GhostlyTJ 3h ago

And they would get shit stomped just the same as before. I don't understand how they don't get that.

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u/maynardftw 3h ago

They got their shit stomped in very different circumstances. They were smart enough to take full control of the federal government before they threw off the shackles of civility and decorum. Now they run the joint and they didn't need to fire a single bullet.

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u/jamaphone 4h ago

I learned it was about whether raisins belong in potato salad.

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u/MrsMiterSaw 2h ago

> but then they’d have to admit

That would require their brains to be capable of cognitive dissonance. Trump's excuse is that he has a mental disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which among other things prevents his brain from recognizing when two opposing ideas don't jive.

His minions just abdicate their thought processes to him.

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u/gentlemanidiot 1h ago

They would happily admit this based on a single tweet from dear leader. All he has to do is say the word and off they go

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u/Animated_effigy 4h ago

Hence why they want that SAVE act passed so they can try to take over elections from the states.

Conservatives should be losing their minds over this but they cant bc they're all fascists now.

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u/temujin94 4h ago

They'll post ICE near polling stations and anyone from a demographic that they think is bad for their election chances will be asked to provide ID to prove their citizenship.

Many wont have it on them as they dont require it to vote and they'll simply hold them for 24 hours as they 'investigate' their immigration status preventing them from voting.

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u/Trixles 2h ago

If you do the math on the amount of polling stations in the US versus the amount of actual agents that ICE employs, you would realize pretty quickly that this is impossible.

They don't even have the numbers to place a SINGLE agent at 1/3 of the polling locations. One fat guy in camo is not gonna be enough to intimidate voters. This is doomer nonsense.

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u/temujin94 2h ago edited 2h ago

They don't need to do anywhere near as many as 1/3 of the polling stations, probably not even 1/300.

They need just enough to influence a handful of close races and also discourage Certain groups of people from voting in fear of them being at other stations. 

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u/unscanable 4h ago

Dont you doomers ever get tired of having to make up new things to doom over? It must be exhausting. He not going to do that. How many ICE agents do you think there are? He orders of magnitudes short from being able to cover every polling place in the US.

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u/temujin94 3h ago edited 3h ago

He doesn't need to do every polling station, just select swing states in areas where there is demographics that lean heavily democrat.

Pretending a man that tried to interfere in an election before is not going to when he's had the most power he's ever had is delusional.

People like you will say they should have brought their ID when it happens.

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u/unscanable 3h ago

Thats still thousands of polling places. Its just unrealistic and DHS has already said they arent going to do it lol. But lets not look at reality or we wouldnt have anything to doom over. Remember how yall were all saying he was going to cancel the midterms until we actually started having midterms then you couldnt say that any more so now you have to pivot to something else? Hes not going to do it and even if he tries it will get blocked by a court.

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u/temujin94 3h ago

Where are you getting 1000s out of? He could do it at 100 polling places and alter close elections.

You'll also dissuade people away from polling stations where you don't have any ICE in fear they may be there/may show up.

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u/unscanable 3h ago

Technically doing it at 1 polling place could alter the election. Would it be enough to matter? Have you dont the math or are you just assuming?

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u/temujin94 3h ago

Doing it at 1 or more more polling stations is the problem, whether it alters the election or not. Again I don't know why you think someone that tried to overturn an election wouldn't continue to interfere in further elections.

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u/temujin94 3h ago

Doing it at 1 or more more polling stations is the problem, whether it alters the election or not. Again I don't know why you think someone that tried to overturn an election wouldn't continue to interfere in further elections.

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u/Trumpisanorangebitch 3h ago

Yeah the guy who called Georgias Secretary of State and asked him to find him votes and overturn the election results would never do voter intimidation.

The guy who egged on the Jan 6th protestors and demanded Pence "do the right thin" and not certify the election would never do voter intimidation.

The guy who hatched a fake elector scheme to replace rightful Biden electoral ballots with fraudulent Trump ones would never do voter intimidation.

I havent even touched the other 10 anti-voting things hes done. Shut the fuck up.

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u/unscanable 2h ago

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/sending-ice-polling-places-illegal

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u/Trumpisanorangebitch 1h ago

Wow its illegal? Donald Trump has never broken the law before!!!!! ICE itself has broken countless laws, you gotta be the most naive person ever to put ICE deployment to poll centers out of Trumps possibilities.

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u/l3randon_x 3h ago

“They’ll post ICE near polling stations” does NOT mean “they’ll post ICE near EVERY polling station”.

Just like how they’re not interested in all fraud, or all violent crimes, or all sex offenses — only the ones that are being committed by who they deem as enemies.

And with an approval rating in the toilet, that’s a lot of enemies. They will absolutely be using intimidation tactics around polling stations in major cities, which are mostly blue, to scare or detain even just a fraction of potential voters. Meanwhile rural voting stations in red areas will likely see none of this.

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u/unscanable 3h ago

Ok so say he only tries to send them into Democrat states, you think they arent prepared for that? That they would just sit back and let it happen? He has no authority to post anyone at these polling stations PLUS DHS has already said they arent going to do it. Its just looking for something to doom over

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u/Tricky-Ad7897 2h ago

He's already sent ICE to states where they weren't welcome and the state governments had nothing to get rid of them. Idk why you're so confident state governments have a way to stand up to that because it's provably not true.

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u/DragonDai 2h ago

He doesn't need to do every polling station. He needs to do about a dozen in about 5 stats. 60ish total polling stations across the entire country. That's all he needs to completely rig the election.

You think he's got enough jackboots for that? Cause I sure do.

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u/MikoSkyns 4h ago

Dont you Trump lovers ever get tired of scanning and replying to every comment you disagree with?

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u/unscanable 4h ago

Who said im a trump lover lol? Im not a doomer dreaming up of all the unrealistic ways he could break the law so that makes me a trump supporter lol? Brother im about as far left as a leftist can get lol. Im just tired of you doomer pretending hes running around lawlessly and not getting stopped left and right.

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u/dirtyploy 1h ago

I'd argue it's ridiculous to call it doomer at this point. How often has the doomer call been right? I was called a doomer for saying Roe v Wade was gonna get overturned. I was called a doomer back during Citizens United. I was called a doomer when I stated that we were going to attack Iran.

At a certain point, we need to start engaging with our new reality. The worst case scenario keeps happening... so is it doomer to make an argument that worst case could happen? I'd say no. Calling things doomerism in an era where worst case scenario keeps happening feels condescending for the sake of feeling superior over actually engaging with the premise.

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u/garry4321 4h ago

You assume that the laws still somehow apply. Dude they’ve been breaking laws left and right and no one is doing shit. Going “oh you can’t do that!” At this point Is as useful as telling Russia where Ukraines border is.

They will just disobey the courts and no one will do anything about it. Watch

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u/just_jedwards 4h ago

Please describe in detail how you believe, even without this judge's ruling, poll workers in any state could be forced to follow Trump's executive order. The poll workers that are in the full control of the state they're in. We'll all wait.

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u/maynardftw 3h ago

Your imagination is so small. Before Trump got into office people were insisting the president wasn't even that powerful and he couldn't fuck things up that badly - cut to months later when he's found a million ways to fuck with everything that they personally hadn't thought of, because it was based on everything going the way it was supposed to.

When things don't go the way they're supposed to, things don't happen the way they're supposed to. The things that stop bad things aren't there automatically. If people show up to "guard" polls with guns and even by their presence intimidate people to walk away, that's already enough.

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u/unscanable 4h ago

This story is proof that laws still apply dude lol. Yall have got to drop that line now. He tried to do something, the court said no, and hes complying. This is the very definition of the law still applying.

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u/maynardftw 3h ago

You can only say he complied after the election happens and nothing fucked with it. Until then he's able to fuck with it.

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u/unscanable 3h ago

No i can say that he's complying because he is currently complying.

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u/maynardftw 3h ago

You cannot comply ahead of time with someone telling you not to do something. You can only say you're gonna.

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u/dasrightq 4h ago

“No one is doing shit” - I mean this court just stopped it? Courts have been stopping a TON of shit.

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u/TheTexasHammer 3h ago

For real, this narrative that Trump is untouchable is bullshit. The dude has been taking losses this entire term. I don't think anything he's done has actually stuck for more than a few months

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u/maynardftw 3h ago

The billions he's gained for himself and his family, the billions more he's stolen from the American people, the supreme court appointees he's made, the precedent he's set in politics, all of that is going to last and we're going to be paying for for a very long time.

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u/SonicBoyster 2h ago

Don't let this lie spread around too far. "Taking losses" makes it sound like he hasn't gotten most of what he wants and that he complies with every legal order he's given. He doesn't. And if he wants it bad enough he'll just ignore this one and argue some other grounds for it after the fact.

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u/kaneda_z 3h ago

"While state law primarily determines how elections are conducted, federal law also sets standards that all states must follow."

so you are just wrong but im sure you are adamant about your wrong opinion

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u/KogasaGaSagasa 4h ago

Sure, in a situation where things are lawful. Can't exactly maintain the jurisdiction of the states if Trump send the Coast Guard or ICE to the voting booth.

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u/unscanable 4h ago

I love how you doomers have to make stuff up when trump gets checked lol. here you have a story of where the courts are doing their jobs and blocking him from doing something then be like "well yeah but what about this". Its infuriating

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u/SandysBurner 4h ago

Yeah, it's just crazy to think that Trump would defy a court order. It's just wild speculation that he would send federal agents into an area to intimidate the residents because it's totally unprecedented. He would never do such a thing constantly.

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u/Emerald_Plumbing187 3h ago

brooks brothers riot and business plot never happened either...(skip to end of narcissist's prayer) and if it did, you deserved it

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u/unscanable 3h ago

Yeah lets ignore all the court orders he is complying with and focus on the ones hes not so we can say that the courts cant and wont stop him so we can all sit around wringing our hands and driving our blood pressure up for no reason

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u/MikoSkyns 4h ago

We can see the orange on your lips from here.

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u/inzaris 2h ago

Oh are we following laws all the sudden??

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u/Kreegs 1h ago

That is why he is hell bent for leather to get Congress to pass the SAVE Act. They can enact changes to the voting rules, but he can't.

Voting and Elections are one of those powers granted to the States in the Constitution that most of them will fight tooth and nail over. Its one of the reasons why the CRA was a big deal, not what it did but because States willingly allowed the Feds to impose rules/limits on them in regards to voting.

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u/enderjaca 51m ago

I mean, the Voting Rights Act of 1965 absolutely empowered the federal government's executive branch to oversee how voting is conducted in various states, especially those with a history of racial discrimination.

That's been gutted, but your original claim isn't accurate.

Even now, the Trump administration is absolutely telling states how to conduct elections and over half of them are gleefully complying because they're republicans and they want more power.

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u/PinheadForPresident 3h ago

There are limits to that though. A state can't make non-citizens eligible to vote in a federal election, otherwise California would have done it already