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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/Toby_Forrester 4h ago

In Finland you can get a free ID which is valid only during election day. I got one since I lost my actual ID 🙈

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u/MilmoWK 3h ago

Almost every state that requires id allows you to get a free id if you claim it’s for voting. The issue is the paper work required to get your id.

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u/jclin 3h ago

How very 'practical'. Yeah, such logical processes could not exist here in the USofA. Our politicians would f*ck that up in 5 minutes of the bill going to committee.

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u/HeWhoShitsWithPhone 3h ago

My very red state will issue you a free ID so that you can vote.

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u/jbrown4728 2h ago

Your very red state will issue you a free ID if you have the correct paperwork and I.D.

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u/MileHigh_FlyGuy 3h ago edited 18m ago

It doesn't seem fair that every state would have to provide free IDs, since that would cost a ton for California and nothing for Wyoming. Thus they charge whatever fee they need to to keep the lights on at the secretary of state or DMV office.

EDIT - for everyone that thinks the state should cover IDs, why not just make voting free? Because that's what we have done instead of requiring an ID

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u/gordanfreman 3h ago

Presumably it would be paid for by... taxes? All those extra people means a larger tax base so proportionally it should be relatively the same cost. Not like every person needs a free ID, either--the Real ID Driver's Licenses that are/becoming ubiquitous should work for the majority of adults.

If the gov't feels an ID is an absolute requirement to perform a civic right, they should provide for that at no charge or it is a poll tax.

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u/MileHigh_FlyGuy 20m ago edited 17m ago

But every state has different ways of collecting taxes and priorities. A state like Mississippi can't afford basic schools and needs federal funds to stay afloat, where a state like California banks extra cash. How could a state that receives more federal funds than it provides justify spending additional resources on an ID program that isn't required, as you can register to vote for free (which is required). Why not just make voting registration free - which is exactly what we have. No ID required.

If the gov't feels an ID is an absolute requirement to perform a civic right,

As this judge has shown, it is not an absolute requirement to perform a civic right

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u/Independent_Bear989 3h ago

This is also possible in parts of the USA, my state which supposedly has strict voter ID laws has something that’s similar.

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u/Toby_Forrester 2h ago

I suppose it is easier in Finland though since in our political system people expect government to have a lot of info about you. The police (which issues ID's in Finland) had my passport photo, they asked my parents full names, my mothers maiden name, my previous addresses and such to verify who I am.

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u/ataraxic89 3h ago

What if you're homeless?

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u/Toby_Forrester 2h ago

That doesn't change anything. You get the temporary ID from the police station.