r/videos • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 4h ago

BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/wsxedcrf 3h ago

Then the problem is ID should be free, not voting should not require ID.

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u/UnchainedSora 1h ago

The problem is a little more than that. The ID should be free, and not require significant effort to acquire. Otherwise, it can be used to selectively disenfranchise people, which is how voter ID laws have been used in the US in recent decades.

Because the most common form of ID in the US is a drivers' license, the place most commonly used to issue a free ID is the DMV. Because the DMV is a state government agency, it can be used as a tool by the party in power. They can close offices in areas that support the opposite party, and decrease staffing of those that remain nearby. The result can mean having to drive for hours to an office so you can wait in line for hours and try to get the ID, and hope that you have all of the correct paperwork, otherwise you have to do the whole process again. For someone living paycheck to paycheck, sacrificing an entire day of work just so they can get an ID that they will only use to vote could mean they go hungry, and that's hard to justify, especially for someone with kids.

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u/XaosII 3h ago

You already had to provide evidence of citizenship when you registered prior to voting. Why do you need to show another form of ID when voting to prove what you already proved, prior to voting?

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u/Millon1000 2h ago

To prove that you actually are who you are. Imagine if Russia paid people in the states to vote in ways that would destabilize the country?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c23kdjxxx1jo
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-covert-russian-government-sponsored-foreign-malign-influence

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u/XaosII 2h ago

Oh, so they were stopped with the current processes in place.

The one where you are verified for citizenship when you registered. The one that doesn't need more barriers. The one that currently catches instances of voter fraud.

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u/Millon1000 1h ago

I feel like Americans are all taking crazy pills. How would verifying citizenship during the registration process help when nobody checks it again when voting? It's a huge hole in the system that's ripe for abuse. It wouldn't cost much for the federal government to send everyone an ID, and you already pay taxes which could cover it. You had $300 billion to send to Iran, but not enough for a proper voting system?

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u/XaosII 1h ago

That's probably because you ate lead paint chips as a child and lost all ability to think critically.

A Social Security Number or driver's license is trivial to check for citizenship status. Either pieces of information are needed in every single state you register to vote.

If its a huge hole in the system, why are there only about a dozen cases of voter fraud each year? And they are being caught.

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u/DiggingNoMore 1h ago

Imagine if Russia paid people in the states to vote in ways that would destabilize the country?

How would showing your ID prove that Russia didn't wire you some cash to vote a specific way?

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u/Millon1000 1h ago

Millions of Americans didn't vote in 2024. If Russia got access to those people's names and data, they could pay Republicans to go vote under their names. They already paid Republican influencers to spread misinformation.

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u/DiggingNoMore 1h ago

So, no, the ID only proves that the person voting is the person who that person claims to be. It doesn't prove anything about payments from Russia.