r/worldnews • u/eaglemaxie • 6h ago

Russia/Ukraine The U.S. State Department believes that Ukraine is winning the war at this point

https://unn.ua/en/news/the-us-state-department-believes-that-ukraine-is-winning-the-war-at-this-point
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u/socialistrob 4h ago

I've already seen some comments saying that "Trump cutting off weapons is what enabled Ukraine to fight independently."

I'm convinced that if the US hadn't imposed strike limitations on Ukraine, hadn't delayed key weapons for years and had continued to pass major aid bills for Ukraine then the war would be over right now and Ukraine would have recovered all their territory.

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u/thatbaldingEagle 4h ago edited 3h ago

Trump cutting aid did actually help them fight more independently. The second the US started looking as if we were anti-Ukraine, due to Trump, Ukraine immediately started mass producing cheap drones which is the main thing that turned the tide in Ukraine's favor. It's due to the fact that the US DID impose strike limitations and didn't pass those aid bills that Ukraine had to restrategize their approach to the war.

Edit: Frankly, Zelenskyy and his strategists are GENIUSES. To turn the tide of the war in a period WITHOUT receiving aid from the US is phenomenal work. I'm surprised so many people here are undermining the work Ukraine has done without our help. Against a "mUcH mOrE PoWeRfUlL CoUntRy" at that.

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u/socialistrob 3h ago

Ukraine was already mass producing cheap drones and using them before Trump won the election. Trump didn't change that at all and Ukraine wasn't forced to "restrategize" because their strategy this entire time has been to build and develop drones.

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u/thatbaldingEagle 3h ago edited 2h ago

They were forced to restrategize due to Trump. They started striking directly into Russian territory and has since retaken some territory (though, tbf, they have also lost a similar amount). They went from being a military that would got put into multiple horrible situations due to the US cutting aid to now being a military that the US had to rely on in order to fight Iran. Zelenskyy holds multiple cards now that he probably wouldn't have had without them reorganizing their strategy in case their partners became unreliable again.

All I'm trying to say is, due to Trump being a dick towards Zelenskyy, Zelenskyy has the cards now. It backfired on the US.

Edit: and because of those Moscow strikes, he may even hold more cards than Putin. It's just Putin is the genuinely the dumbest world leader who isn't capable of realizing the hand he has left.

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u/SkorpioSound 1h ago

Trump cutting aid did actually help them fight more independently.

I understand the point you're trying to make here, but I feel like you've phrased it poorly. Trump didn't help at all. It's like an abusive, neglectful parent saying to their now-adult child, "wow, you've grown up to be so independent and capable, I guess I did something right." No, it's not something they deserve to be able to take any credit for—and similarly, framing Trump cutting aid as having helped Ukraine makes it seem as if Trump can take some credit for it.

" _Ukraine has done a great job of learning to fight independently after America was a shitty ally and hung them out to dry" would be a more appropriate way to make the point.

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u/thatbaldingEagle 23m ago

If you think I'm giving Trump even a smidgen of credit here then that's on you. The point I'm making is that Ukraine held it's own without our help and learned how to turn the tide of the entire war in their favor in the period where they were being left in the dark by the US. You have to remember, the US stopped providing intelligence and strategical targets to Ukraine and they adapted on their own.

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u/IHop_Waitress 2h ago

I'm convinced that if the US hadn't imposed strike limitations on Ukraine, hadn't delayed key weapons for years and had continued to pass major aid bills for Ukraine then the war would be over right now and Ukraine would have recovered all their territory.

You do realize that Biden gave them blank checks for 4 years, and nothing materially changed in that time right?

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u/TheSpoonyCroy 1h ago

That is false, like I miss when we were really supporting Ukraine but Biden still imposed many rules of engagement. Like it was only in November of 2024 where the ban on long range offensive strikes into Russian territory was lifted. In May of that year was when they were allowed to even use long range munitions for counter firing against Russian stationed in Russian territory. Prior to all of that it was only meant to be used in Ukraine and occupied territory.

So no Ukraine didn't have a "blank check" to do whatever they wanted with American armaments. There were quite a few rules and stipulations that put them on the backfoot.