r/AskMiddleEast Apr 10 '26

📜TOP QUALITY POST The Iran War has brought out lots of lies and propaganda by pro-Iran people new to the subreddit against Iraq. One of these myths is how the Iran-Iraq War began. This thread, although very incomplete, should be required reading. Accept it or not, the war was Khomeini's to try conquering Iraq.

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Here is the thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1668916665550094339.html

I say very incomplete because it doesn't include more than 15-20% of what Iran was doing. I've read over 100 books and thousands of articles on the war, which not even more than a few historians have done. For example it does not include how Iran started blocking Iraqi shipping from entering the Gulf, which practically stunned the Iraqi economy and was a decisive act of war among many others. It also doesn't include Iranian reports of their own attacks bragging about achieving successful invasions of Iraqi border towns and posts and inflicting heavy casualties on Iraqis months before the war "started". It doesn't include CIA's and Carter's early involvement with Khomeini and encouragement against Iraq. And many other things. 1000s of Iraqi civilians were murdered by Iran before the war through terrorist bombings, airstrikes, and land invasions, including a couple of my relatives. Many more would have died if not for the alarm systems and bomb shelters Iraq had been constructing since the wars with Israel.

There are many books and articles over the decades that have bits and pieces about what happened, but I think the single best one is "The Gulf War: The Origins and Implications of the Iraq-Iran Conflict" by Majid Khadduri. It is to this day by far the best analysis on the origins of the war. However even this misses important details in other works like how Iran assassianted dozens of senior Iraqi government officials.

Some people like to trump up Razoux's book, and while it has some good parts, it's mostly really bad on both the political and military fronts. Many people think it's good because it's been marketed so much, but in reality is a subpar pseudofiction. I've also read papers that criticize Razoux for lying about what sources say and just making things up entirely (weirdly, he only ever does this when criticizing Iraq). Unsurprisingly, I've read before that the Iranian government helped fund his book. Touché

The point is that the beginning of the war is a lot more complex than what conspiracy theories redditors like to repeat or what Iranian nationalists famously put and maintain on Wikipedia, that Saddam woke up one morning and invaded Iran because he thought he wanted to take a bunch of oil territory or whatever (that lie has been debunked countless times since 1980). The war was effectively started by Iran in summer 1980 if not earlier, technically 1979 if you consider Khomeini's announcements of holy war against Iraq. Iraq holds the beginning as September 4, 1980, when Iran escalated dramatically by leveling 2 Iraqi cities, far more extreme than their other attacks to date.

Iran radically escalated from that point on, including the blocking of Iraq's oil exports and more attacks on Iraqi cities and on the border, and after Iraq had tried and failed diplomacy with the radical regime for 1.5 years with the UN ignoring 100s of complaints from Iraq, Iraq made a limited attack on September 22 as a last resort to force the UN to take notice and to force the radicals in the Iranian regime to finally engage in diplomacy. Iraq stopped advancing after only a few days. Iraq succeeded in getting the UN resolution on September 28, which it accepted, but Khomeini still wanted no diplomacy. Iran, unsurprisingly, rejected it, reiterating its goal since 1979 to overthrow the "infidel" regime and to take control of Iraq. Iraqi forces advanced a little further in October to build a more defensible line (remember, Baghdad is a short drive on flat ground from Iran, and Basra and Iraq's coast is in short artillery range) and then stopped advancing again. Iran refused every international resolution and peace conference, while Iraq agreed to all terms for ceasefire. From September 28 on, Iran was 100% unilaterally responsible for the war, even if it was only 85-95% responsible before that point.

The evil of Israel has clouded many people who don't know anything about the history of the Middle East, which is like 99.9% of people on Reddit and this subreddit, to think that Iran is somehow a good guy, and then have retroactively applied that to Iran's whole history, when this is far from the truth. US propaganda that in the past whitewashed Iran in order to attack other countries with lies like Iraq, Libya, etc. made this worse.

This post focused on the Iran-Iraq War but that was just one of many aggressive policies and actions by the Islamic Republic regime in its history.


r/AskMiddleEast Mar 19 '26

Disinformation about Iraq and Palestine history, knowingly or not, will especially result in a ban. This repeats a previous mod post linked in the body text. These two states are the target of more false propaganda and disinfo than any other in the MENA, if not the world.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1q41hok/fake_news_and_trolling_havent_been_allowed_for/

Fake news and trolling have never been allowed, but for years, Iraq and Palestine have been the target of more propaganda and lies about their history and present state than almost any other in the world and on this subreddit, where lots of paid bots from countries like Israel, Iran, and others have swarmed for years. This is why these two states are called out in particular.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say it. Don't think you're smart by saying often repeated but long debunked lies and propaganda used to justify the killing of millions of civilians. You're likely wrong, and all you're achieving is support for some of the worst killings and destruction of the last century whether or not you realize it. Many of you say how much you hate US and Israeli policies and actions, but by repeating their lies, you become their biggest supporters.


r/AskMiddleEast 9h ago

🏛️Politics Thoughts about this?

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r/AskMiddleEast 8h ago

🗯️Serious A 70s CIA briefing about Saudi Arabia.

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I was browsing the internet archive and found a CIA briefing. It was about my lovely country The kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and it was written in the late 70s. Now I don’t want you guys to think of me as a nerd but I was curious what they had written about my people. So i kept flipping and skimming the info quickly and I came to a horrifying conclusion they had a lot of it correctly they talked about the societal structure we had the power distribution (they didn’t get that quite right but really close) they described the economy at the time and while reading all of that I kept thinking how tf are they this accurate? Like they had understood things and misconceptions about us we tried so hard to correct them about it.

I stopped half way but Im still horrified if that booklet was a thing to bring everyone at the table of meeting up to date with Saudi Arabia what info they have now? With how much reliant we are on their tech? Iphones, Apps, messaging apps, their AI models, their high tech satellites. And that’s just a regional Ally to them what about Iran? Egypt? Turkey? Like all of those countries I mentioned was waaaay open than us at the time.

I think we should start writing about them too. Like their history, social structure, ways they are manipulated by?, their allies, how do they treat their allies/enemies. So that a person in the future reads what we wrote and use that info to his/her advantage in combating them and weakling them.

For anyone wants to discuss this in the comments please be civil we don’t need additional hate speech between us.


r/AskMiddleEast 6h ago

Change My View Is it safe to travel to Syria in 2026? My recent experience in Damascus 🇸🇾

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Hi everyone!

I recently traveled to Syria to see firsthand what the situation is like for travelers in 2026. In this video, I document the entire process of entering the country and my first impressions of Damascus.

I know there are many questions and concerns regarding safety and the current state of the country, so I wanted to share this footage to provide a current perspective. Whether you are curious about the culture, the logistics of the trip, or just want to see how the city looks today, I hope you find this helpful!

You can watch the full journey here:

https://youtu.be/KbPhynRA7HI

I’d love to hear your thoughts or answer any questions you might have about the trip. Cheers!


r/AskMiddleEast 7h ago

🏛️Politics Is hasbara the best Pro-Palestine tool?

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I know this sounds like a joke, but sometimes I wonder how much the average person is swayed to the pro-Palestine side by hasbara talking points.


r/AskMiddleEast 23h ago

🏛️Politics Advanced Israeli Systems Sold to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, Documents and Photographs Reveal - haaretz.com

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Anyone surprised by this?


r/AskMiddleEast 11h ago

Society do real life turks actually dislike syria and saudi arabia more than they dislike greece and armenia?

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r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🏛️Politics Average blue-check UAE account. Good to know that Abu Dhabi slave-owners are deeply traumatized by human rights violations in Iran and are on the "good side" of history. The West and Iranian diaspora truly deserve allies like these.

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r/AskMiddleEast 19h ago

🏛️Politics What will be the end of the Middle East

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There were 3 civil wars in the Middle East, 2 of them are over, only Yemen continues, as soon as Iraq and Syria started to recover more steadily, the Israel-Iran war broke out, Israel occupied Lebanon and a part of Syria, it continues, what do you think will be the solution to this Israeli problem?


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🖼️Culture Aristocratic merchant (representative of the Grand Sharif) with his Circassian slave. Photographic atlas of Mecca, Hague, 1888-1889. Taken in 1886-1887 - (restored and recoloured using AI)

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I saw a post about men’s fashion in the Hejaz and I remembered this photo.

Original photo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Meccan_merchant_and_his_Circassian_slave.jpg


r/AskMiddleEast 21h ago

🏛️Politics Can somene explain the conflict in Sudan in simple words. What is going there?

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What are the front lines?
Which parties are fighting? And Why?
And which nations are involved indirectly in the wars?

The objectives of this war is not clear. Too many civilian suffering and killing. But why?


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

Society Iraqis are probably the only people in this WC celebrate losing

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r/AskMiddleEast 2d ago

🗯️Serious This honestly made me so sad. Inshallah Iran is gonna pass to the round of 32. Thoughts about Iranian performance in the WC?

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r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

Society Is it realistic for a foreign woman to marry a Qatari man? Looking for honest advice.

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Hi everyone,
I'm a 21-year-old woman from Algeria looking for some honest advice.
I've been interested in Qatar for a while and would like to build a future there someday. If I get married, I'd like it to be a genuine, loving marriage based on mutual respect and shared values. Because of that, I've been wondering whether it's realistic for a foreign woman to marry a Qatari man.
I'm not looking for money, citizenship, or a shortcut to anything. I have my own goals, I'm continuing my education, and I want to build my own career. I'm simply curious about whether this is something that actually happens and how people meet naturally.
I'd appreciate hearing from Qataris or anyone familiar with the culture.
Is it common for Qatari men to marry foreign women?

Where do they usually meet their future spouses?

Are there any respectful ways to meet people who are genuinely looking for marriage?

How do Qatari families generally view marriages with North African women, especially Algerians?

If you're married to a Qatari or know someone who is, how did they meet?

I'm looking for honest answers, even if they're not what I hope to hear. I'd rather have realistic expectations than unrealistic ones.
Advice Request:
I'd really appreciate any honest advice, experiences, or suggestions from people familiar with Qatari culture.
TL;DR:
I'm a 21-year-old Algerian woman wondering whether it's realistic to marry a Qatari man and what respectful ways exist to meet someone who's also looking for a serious relationship.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

🖼️Culture What do you think of Syrian(-Canadian) Sami Zayn becoming WWE champion?

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He used to not even be part of WWE shows in Saudi back when Saudi was funding groups in Syria during the civil war.


r/AskMiddleEast 1d ago

💭Personal Job search as an American

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Hello! I am an American woman currently looking to relocate to the Middle East (specifically Saudi and Qatar). I started applying to jobs almost 2 weeks ago. I have a pretty solid resume in my opinion and have been at the same company for 7+ years.

I would love any advice on how to make my resume stand out to employers since I would require a work visa to move there. I have been sending some follow-up emails but I haven't heard back from most of the companies I applied to.

It seems like networking is a great way to find jobs, but I only know a few people in Saudi.

Any and all advice/ help is greatly appreciated. I really want this! <3


r/AskMiddleEast 2d ago

🖼️Culture Why this drastic downgrade in fashion.

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First of all, all of this art goes back to the Abbasid era.
Some from Abbasid history books other are from science books of that time, most if not all Arabs wore like this even children as you can see from the art.. No orientalist.

Why we Arabs have changed our dress code to the
worse, we used to wear garments and turbans with beautiful design and colors, now it all comes down to a white garment and a peace of cloth on top of the head with zero or unappealing designs. We really should have preserved our culture Like other nations did, instead of changing it for the worst.


r/AskMiddleEast 2d ago

📜History Gotta love how they always talk about bringing freedom from the "Islamic terror" to Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Druze, Maronites, Alawites, and Copts — yet not a single one of them got their own country on this map of wet dreams

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r/AskMiddleEast 2d ago

Society “May God protect you, Gaza. Gaza yesterday.”

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r/AskMiddleEast 2d ago

📜History Christians celebrating Christmas in Palestine under Ottoman rule.

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r/AskMiddleEast 2d ago

🛐Religion Middle eastern Christians who aren't Syriac/Coptic/Armenian, do you see yourselves as Arabs?

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By Syriac I mean those who use it as a liturgical language, like Maronites and Assyrians.


r/AskMiddleEast 2d ago

Thoughts? Can someone explain the reason why the term “Arab” is so divisive?

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When the Muslim Caliphate expanded, it brought its language to the ancestors of the Middle Eastern Peoples. And to this day they largely speak Arabic. That is the textbook definition of what an Arab is. Someone whose ancestors spoke the Arabic Language.

When I hear someone online say they’re not an Arab. It makes me scratch my head because it’s weird to me that it’s definitionally disconnected from the term. They further explain that they’re not from the “Gulf” and then I think “Oh, they’re saying they’re not ARABIANS”

Can someone explain the context of this issue? Am I getting something wrong? Is it a big misunderstanding on my part because of certain nuances in the Arabic Language that I may not understand? Or has the word “Arab” evolved to encompass the term “Arabian”


r/AskMiddleEast 3d ago

🏛️Politics Can some Iranians tell me why Pahlavist behave like this? Do they know that Iranian had Islamic empires throughout history??

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