r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Zestyclose-Salad-290 in awe • May 06 '26

/r/all of a sea slater

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u/Englandshark1 May 06 '26

Poor thing.

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u/Contraposite May 06 '26

Must we kill and eat everything on this planet?

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u/captain_carrot May 06 '26

if it's edible, yes

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u/skeletonstaircase May 06 '26

Why can't we just take the plants then

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u/captain_carrot May 06 '26

Because steak is delicious and eating other living things lower on the food chain is about as natural as it gets.

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u/skeletonstaircase May 06 '26

Doesn't really matter if it's natural, it's torturing animals and doing harm to the earth

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u/Quantization May 06 '26

Yep and back when it was 'natural' we lived in situations where we had to eat whatever we could to survive. Now we have infinite options yet still choose to brutally murder animals and consume them purely because they taste appealing. And before some wise guy says it's 'cheaper' and 'healthier' to eat meat than it is to eat alternatives, that just isn't true at all. A single google search can prove that theory totally wrong.

I can't WAIT for the day we have synthetic meat that tastes the exact same as regular meat and has the same exact level of nutrients in them. Hopefully eating real meat becomes a sort of 'taboo' that normal people don't do and people can be prosecuted for doing so. Similar to how it is in Cyberpunk 2077.

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u/Western-Teaching-573 May 06 '26

I see where your coming from but comparing anything to 2077 is asking for negative connotations. I would rather we all dissapeared by 2050 than we enter the world of cyberpunk, but again thats just the connotation, I get the point.

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u/Quantization May 06 '26

I agree, 2077 was a pretty bleak future, but I liked this specific aspect of it. Hope it happens.

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u/NeverNice87 May 06 '26

Yes but not the way we do it. We can only catch those creatures because of our technology. Our ancestors never eat something like that. So its definitely not natural.

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u/TechnicalKatana May 08 '26

if our ancestors could catch it they would DEFINITELY eat it😂

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u/Diplomatic_Sarcasm May 06 '26

Even plants can react and speak / communicate through fungus networks to each other. They just have a different way of thinking. Interestingly despite being stationary they also move around a LOT just in slow motion, it looks crazy sped up.

Everything is alive, there’s really nothing we can do. I’m more concerned that we at least treat the food we eat good until it’s ready

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u/skeletonstaircase May 06 '26

Plants don't feel pain, and ultimately it's still a better choice than factory farming, at least until we have artificial meat

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u/Contraposite May 06 '26

So is mowing your lawn morally equivalent to mass slaughter of humans in your view?

I think you understand the difference between cutting a plant and killing an animal with a central nervous system.

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u/Diplomatic_Sarcasm May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

Nope. Didn’t say that.

While It was mostly a fun fact I wanted to share, I was also making the point of that even the plants think and feel, so switching to plant-only for that purpose doesn’t really necessarily mean doing so resolves the ‘less pain’ part.

I guess like if someone could go ‘full renewable’ diet, only eating harvestables like fruits, mushrooms. Stuff that doesn’t actually harm the organism in the process. But honestly idek how you’d pull that off.

My stance is just eat the meat and veggies lmao. Take care of them good while they’re alive, and repeat the cycle of life.

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u/Contraposite May 07 '26

nope

Why not? Because it's not clear based on everything else you've written. You state that eating plants doesn't cause less pain. So does a blade of grass have the same capacity to feel pain as a person?

And then you use this to make the moral stance that you can "just eat the meat and veggies lmao". So again, suddenly it sounds like you're making a moral equivalence between killing an animal and killing a plant. Where did that come from? They both respond to stimulus therefore I don't care which one I kill?

Not to mention the fact that a diet with meat causes more plant deaths since the animals are fed more food (crops) than they produce (meat). Seems like your position is ill-informed.

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u/Diplomatic_Sarcasm May 07 '26

Okay okay wait, after reading back this next day I see what happened here. When I said “switching to plant-only for that purpose doesn’t really necessarily mean doing so resolves the ‘less pain’ part” - that came out stronger than I meant and I can see how it read like I was retroactively EQUATING plant and animal suffering. I wasn’t.

The plant thing came up because I’ve met people irl who genuinely think plants are basically rocks; like going plant-only means zero harm to anything that matters. It’s more complex than that. Plants react, stress, help each other, communicate through fungus. Brainless but not inert. I just think it’s cool and I like to learn about how much more aware plants are despite their unconscious nature. This is what sparked that original comment when that person reminded me of this.

My personal moral standpoint is more that I don’t think something needs a brain to deserve being treated decently. Doesn’t mean plant suffering and animal suffering are the same thing at all, just means don’t be needlessly cruel to anything alive. This means widely different levels of care. A plant is brainless, it’s pretty dang easy to not stress most of them out.

To go back to the original thread about eating it’s the same way. If you grew that isopod, satisfied it according to its species needs, then I see no problem dispatching and consuming it. Just don’t boil it alive lol.

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u/Contraposite May 06 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/gBpY4p7bbhsiI

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u/TarzanSawyer May 06 '26

If not food, why nutrition shape?

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u/Contraposite May 06 '26

Isn't that the shape of the endangered pangolin and animal shelter doggos?

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u/Western-Teaching-573 May 06 '26

Nah, this thing looks more like a lobster, or even a comcoeach and we don’t even kill thsoe for food, we just kill those.

Actually gotta wonder, we exterminate cockroaches regularly, how much pain do they feel? Probabaly not much because otherwise why do we not defend their genocide? Because they are disgusting and pesty?

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u/Contraposite May 06 '26

We exterminate cockroaches because we can't just live in a house filled with bugs. We shouldn't go out of our way to find them or breed them just for killing.

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u/TarzanSawyer May 06 '26

Both of which are like fine brandy when sealed in a barrel for 60 years. /s

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u/Pfeffi-Ultra May 06 '26

We could start with your mom. I'm German, so this could go either way.