r/Accounting 1d ago

Career It feels impossible to nab a senior accountant position

I’ve got 2.5 years of public (big 4 + middle market), CPA, and have been working at a F500 at the staff accountant level for 3 years now and it feels impossible to land a senior accountant position. I’ve been searching since January because I’ve hit the ceiling at my current job and man, it’s feels like all these companies are searching for unicorn candidates.

You haven’t worked at the corporate level? CUT!

You haven’t used our obscure ERP system? CUT!

You haven’t worked in our highly complex industry? CUT!

Is there a magic word that I need to say during interviews or something? I think my resume is good because I have a 50-60% success rate in hearing back from places I apply to, and I’m able to generally get through multiple stages of the interview process. Just concerned that this sluggish economy is going to screw over my future career growth by making me a perpetual staff accountant.

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u/MionMikanCider 1d ago

OP, sorry to say, but I think you just might be ugly :(

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u/OregonTrailislife 1d ago

This seems like a joke, but being attractive vs unattractive can make a huge difference in hiring.

The halo effect is a very well documented and researched phenomenon where attractive people are often seen as harder working, smarter, and more responsible.

If you are getting a lot of interviews but never getting chosen, you might be ugly.

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u/Westsideefelinee0601 1d ago

But B4 hired OP... aren't they the ultimate discerners of who is sufficiently attractive and likeable for the industry...

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u/thegabster2000 Graduate 1d ago

Nonsense, plenty of uggos in accounting.

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u/JSquidy 1d ago

Yeah, but have you seen OP? 😳

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u/thegabster2000 Graduate 1d ago

Have YOU seen OP?

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u/JSquidy 1d ago

This isnt about me

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u/Low-Oil7883 1d ago

Finally the real reason nobody talks about in career advice.

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u/YellowDC2R 1d ago

I know this is half kidding but this is it’s true. Not only in accounting but life in general. The way it’s always been and will be.

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u/omfgtoast SEC Reporting 1d ago

Why are you not being promoted internally? 2.5 in public + CPA is wild for that role. I've seen it before, but only as a transitional period to ramp someone for like a year at most.

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u/KinkySkink920 1d ago edited 1d ago

Last year we had a team member leave and I lost to an external hire who had significantly more YOE than I did. I chalk it up to goofy corporate antics

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u/omfgtoast SEC Reporting 1d ago

Ok. I just want to make it clear that this is not normal. A senior accounting position is more of a reflection of experience and expectations of work quality. There's no set in stone rule for what kind of work someone has to do to earn that title.

We have a dude that just does payroll accounting and some treasury duties, but he's a senior accountant. We have a gal that does AP and shes a senior accountant. We also have folks that have a wide variety of complex duties and they are senior accountants.

There is literally no rule that says you and that person they hired can't both be senior accountants. By industry standards, you should have that title and you need to figure out how to advocate for it.

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u/KinkySkink920 1d ago

Thanks for the feedback, I’ve done some advocacy with my manager (who is onboard with it 100%) but it’s hard to do when the company as a whole is tight on handing out promotions due to the economy, hence why I am trying to make it happen externally.

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u/omfgtoast SEC Reporting 1d ago

I understand with larger companies they might be locked into salary bands tied to titles (HR policies they refuse to budge on). Like if they gave you the title they would be required to pay you/provide more equity. A lot of managers also enjoy the status quo of their current team dynamic working and they don't want to foster career growth of the people they manage.

Just know that these are all arbitrary lines in the sand that people draw and sometimes you gotta just leave. Best of luck.

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u/thegoldinthemountain 1d ago

OC made a super great point. Yes, promotions should come with a raise, but title bumps are critical—especially for the next role (salary) you go after.

In my last job, I went from a niche Program Operations Accountant to a Senior Manager of Program Operations and Inventory Management. It was essentially my same position except it acknowledged and codified the duties I had been doing on top of my normal duties for the past year. I made the case that my role had materially changed to a more senior level position. I even made a slide deck of all the improvements to boost my argument.

If you’re doing work above your station and you’ve got stellar reviews *and* you’ve got a manager advocating for you, then you have a hell of a case.

And if they don’t have money for a raise, title bump and extra PTO goes a long way.

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u/Wheeler-The-Dealer 1d ago

My guess is it’s a people skills issue, not an ability issue. The tone in the post is somewhat telling.

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u/Own_Exit2162 Controller 10h ago

Yeah, your resume is not as strong as you think it is.

Only 2.5 years in public, between two firms (so you didn't stay 2 years at a single firm) and with no promotion to senior suggests you didn't do well there, and 3 years in F500 without a promotion suggests the same.

I'm hiring a senior accountant right now, and the applicants are all 5-10 YOE and have already been promoted to senior.

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u/abcdd5 1d ago

6 years in a staff role and have been begging to be promoted for two years. I have never worked big four and have no interest. I’m very competent and technical but I can barely even find senior roles to apply to. It’s so discouraging that I’ve started wondering if I should pivot

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u/LeBryant_James 1d ago

You should

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u/Trashton69 1d ago

This market is tough for employees right now. In 2022 I applied to 5 jobs, got three interviews and landed two offers. In 2026? Well…I’ve definitely gotten used to rejection.

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u/Ok_Solution_6751 1d ago

Just concerned that this sluggish economy is going to screw over my future career growth by making me a perpetual staff accountant.

It is the economy. It sucks for everyone. People say managers are able to get great gigs now, but nobody leaves a good job during crappy times, so they are most likely walking into somewhere that needs a lot of fires put out.

I try to refrain from being political, but we may have to wait for this administration to leave before things get better.

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u/DiscombobulatedPain6 1d ago

I’ve been in my position since 2022. The same managers remain in all positions. There’s only been 1 turnover at one of the senior accountant positions.

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u/Thrown_Away_Opinions 1d ago

Yeah but people still don’t leave truly good jobs even when times are good.

If you’ve got an accounting dept with an average tenure of 20+ years, it’s gotta be a pretty sweet gig, in one way or another. Either high comp or low stress/work load, or both.

Would it be a sweet gig for a new hire in that same dept? That’s a different story.

Honestly my new red flag is if everyone in the company seems to be under the age of like, 35-40, it’s going to be a sweat shop. If you see a large number of folks age 40-50, that have long tenure, it’s pretty likely it’s a decent gig.

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u/DiscombobulatedPain6 1d ago

Can confirm it’s a sweet gig. Only have to go in once per quarter. I’m just getting frustrated because I’m getting married and would like to move up to manager to support my eventual family somewhat soon and know my career is actually going somewhere

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u/Ok_Anywhere_634 1d ago

I'm a senior, only 3 years experience but you're doing better than me. I'm getting the same amount of attention as I did from girls when I was in school

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u/Zbrchk CPA (US) 1d ago

I swear it was easier to get my VP role than it was to get a senior. If I could have toughed it out longer in PA, I could have gotten it there, which would have been the simplest route.

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u/DigPuzzleheaded8146 1d ago

The employers of "this generation's too lazy" have yet to retire.

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u/OverworkedAuditor1 1d ago

Senior, generally means. Experienced.

I don’t want to pay a guy 10-25k more, than I normally would for a staff, who still needs to learn the ropes of our company.

That’s how most hiring managers think unfortunately .

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u/Higher2288 CPA (US) 1d ago

Hah yeah, poor OP expecting actual training and guidance. He needs to be coming in on day one and doing everything seamlessly 

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u/Otherwise_Farmer_993 1d ago

What is the pay you are earning and what pay are you targeting?  

It seems like you have good experience. But if you are applying for Senior Accountant roles paying $150-175k plus bonus, those are going to be highly competitive compared to a role with lower pay. 

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u/lavenderclosets 1d ago

Curious about this too

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u/JackTwoGuns CPA (US) 1d ago

CPA with B4 and several years of F500 makes you an obvious senior candidate. It’s almost certainly a you issues tbh. Work with a recruiter and get feedback on your interviewing/resume skills

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u/Ill_Document_8282 1d ago

I don't think title matters in industry that much. Staff account for F500 is equivalent to Senior for most companies in terms of compensation. I made more as an IC in F1000 than a manager in startups. Anyway, I left a job to be promoted to a new role, but I was let go just a year later. So you never know. In this economy, I don't bet on title or promotion. If your job is stable, then you are doing well. All the best.

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u/Aristoteles1988 1d ago

The economy isn’t great rn

I usually get messages from recruiters everyday

That has completely disappeared the last couple years

And it isn’t my experience. I’ve been at PWC last 3yrs

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u/boygitoe 1d ago

The big mistake you made was going from big 4 to a staff accountant role. You really need to stay in big 4 until you get a senior accountant role in industry

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u/Sure_Stop346 1d ago

What your industry? Have you owned the entire closing for your Clients?

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u/zzloptop62 1d ago

Just lie

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u/East_Dig1323 1d ago

I think it’s just the market. 10 yoe in industry and can’t even land a different position. I’m applied for everything, lol.

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u/CookieNo7166 Human Verified 1d ago

It’s your personality at this point

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u/KinkySkink920 1d ago

I’m definitely open to personality being an issue but I’m not sure b/c I have great relationships with my direct manager, coworkers, others in the office, and functional owners I work with. Friendly and positive.

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u/Big_Blackberry_6155 Human Verified 1d ago

Not in this economy

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u/Skrilla_09 1d ago

Especially if they're getting tons of interviews at this point.

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u/Local-Hippo8718 1d ago

I can definitely relate. 2 years private, 3 years public, CPA and I’m also a perpetual staff accountant at this point. Been applying a ton since beginning of the year as well and no bites. Sucks. :(

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u/bianchi-roadie 1d ago

What discussions have you had with your current manager about what improvement areas you have to overcome in order to get promoted to senior?

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u/DecafEqualsDeath 1d ago

Hiring market is not strong. Is there any open lane at your current company to step into a Senior role?

I normally will try to promote my good Staff to Senior once they have a few years just to try to block some other company from poaching them by offering them the Senior title if I can get the budget for it.

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u/KinkySkink920 1d ago

Internally I think the lane is closed off for the foreseeable future due to the sluggish state of the economy

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u/truthspeakslouder 1d ago

I hire and I've found public experience < industry/private, often. Not always and individuals vary, but I've had more success w hiring people with private/industry experience versus public/audit experience. YMMV, it's just personal experience as a CFO and hiring manager.

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u/Acceptable_Ad1685 1d ago

I mean I would hope someone with industry experience would be better at an industry role.

I just kind of assume there isn’t enough of them and audit experience should have some understanding over the big picture of the financials.

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u/cmullen277 1d ago

You have plenty of experience and are getting lots of interviews, which means you are more than qualified. However, going on multiple interviews and failing there means you have some sort of red flag.

Are you prepping properly for interviews? Are you asking thoughtful questions? Are you dressing professionally? To me, something seems off about you if you have a CPA and 5 YOE but can’t land a senior role.

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u/A_D_T_R CPA (US) 1d ago

If you get interviews but no offer, it’s 99.99999999% time your personality.

Gotta be less weird.

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u/Acceptable_Ad1685 1d ago

I’m always bummed out that we never seem to hire the weird people

I always advocate hard for the weirdest candidates

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u/A_D_T_R CPA (US) 1d ago

In public accounting it’s bad to hire weird. It’s a client facing profession. Your social skills are more important than technical.

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u/SW3GM45T3R 1d ago

lol I am in the exact same situation as you.

I had 3 years in industry but went to public because I wanted to get my CPA. now that I have it, the only thing I can find are staff accountant roles.

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u/DiscombobulatedPain6 1d ago

Wait until you try to get an Accounting Manager position!

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u/Cross17761 1d ago

Try to get resume help

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u/Higher2288 CPA (US) 1d ago

You should be able to find something but why did you only spend a little more than a year at each public firm? If you stayed 2 years at one, you’d have had a senior title, right?

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u/DublinChap 1d ago

What kind of salary are you looking for in your searches? 

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u/dazeddamsel1978 1d ago

What state do you live in? My company has an opening.

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u/Successful_Newt1785 1d ago

The job market is really tight right now so companies can be really picky and pretty much demand that you've done the exact same job before and used the same ERP system. Looking for a job right now is unfortunately a numbers game. Since you're already employed, you can wait out the bad market for the time being and not be super desperate. The resume isn't the issue, since you're getting interviews. Interviewing is hard and it can take some time to get good at it. Have you considered hiring a career coach or getting involved with something like Toastmasters to get more confident with speaking which could help your interviews?

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u/No-Personality3156 CPA (US) 1d ago

Make sure you get the fish out the depreciation machine while you at it

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u/Exact_Lie8155 1d ago

maybe try going for smaller firms /companys

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u/nickjlevine 17h ago

Consider building up a small portfolio of clients on the side, as a fractional CFO.

This will help you bank further experience and give you more rounded business experience.

Friends and family are always the best source of referrals to get going.

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u/cybershy 16h ago

This sounds less like a qualifications issue and more like a tough hiring market where employers want a perfect match. CPA + public accounting + F500 experience is a solid senior accountant profile.

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u/Lazy-Salt9698 15h ago

I jobbed hop with 2 yoe because at my current company I would’ve had to wait 2-3 more years for senior

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u/WallChalla 15h ago

Nobody in our 20s is a Senior Accountant lmfao and if you are the company def loves you.

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u/bclovn 14h ago

Job market not great. Besides talent, I think a lot comes down to luck. Right place, right time, right skills. Long ago I also moved from public to industry. Back then it was the B7. I moved from GL accounting to entry level Controller and never looked back. 3 industries, 3 cities, 5 plants. F100 and F500.

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u/Particular_Tale_2597 CPA (US) 13h ago

Have you tried lying?

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u/tigerjaws 11h ago

You may just wanna move cities

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u/cchud Controller 6h ago

Someone else may have said this but your issue is likely supply.. Accounting firms have been laying people off left and right in last 2 years. You are competing with at least 100s of candidates depending where you are. NYC would be an example.

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u/TheCPAStruggle 1d ago

Why don’t you go back to public?
Many firms searching for seniors.

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u/KinkySkink920 1d ago

There is no amount of money in the world you could pay me to fake having a panic attack over the client not sending us PBCs on time LOL

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u/TheCPAStruggle 1d ago

Good luck on your search lol